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  • #31
    Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
    I ditched coffee. Cut back on meat (added more fruit), felt like crap, reinstated massive protein intake (cut the excess fruit). Looking young again! It was the coffee. Most likely.
    I've cut coffee out too. Wasn't linking it to skin at all - nasty IBS like symptoms!! And rotten sleep patterns when I drink it. Which leads to baggy eyes and black circles around them!

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    • #32
      Well crap. Coffee is the one vice I have thus far refused to give up...I always figured 12 oz of coffee a day shouldn't hurt me. *Sigh* I guess I could try it. Based on the responses here I may have to experiment to find out if it's my diet, my weight loss or my age. I guess it's time to start tweaking things and figure it out.
      High Weight: 225
      Weight at start of Primal: 189
      Current Weight: 174
      Goal Weight: 130

      Primal Start Date: 11/26/2012

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      • #33
        I have recently ditched even the decaf. It still has some caffeine in it and I tend to drink it by the pot not the cup. When I stick with just my rooibos tea, I find a notable improvement in my skin. It feels more elastic and has better all over even tone (w/o makeup).

        There is some talk in the carnivorous community (which may or may not be scientifically verifiable) that the oils in coffee beans are not good for us even if we are drinking the decaf kind.

        Interesting. Might be worth a try Dee.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
          I have recently ditched even the decaf. It still has some caffeine in it and I tend to drink it by the pot not the cup. When I stick with just my rooibos tea, I find a notable improvement in my skin. It feels more elastic and has better all over even tone (w/o makeup).

          There is some talk in the carnivorous community (which may or may not be scientifically verifiable) that the oils in coffee beans are not good for us even if we are drinking the decaf kind.

          Interesting. Might be worth a try Dee.
          You know, I am loathe to admit it, but when I drink more than one cup of coffee per day my lips get really dry I'm currenlty drinking upwards of four.

          Think I'm going to have to try this too...
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
            There is some talk in the carnivorous community (which may or may not be scientifically verifiable) that the oils in coffee beans are not good for us even if we are drinking the decaf kind.
            This agrees with something my own doctor told me. She said that in some people, the oils from coffee do something to the liver that affects how the liver processes cholesterol and the LDL cholesterol in that individual goes up. A small switch can help- I changed from drinking espresso (no filter) to filtered drip coffee and my LDL cholesterol dropped.

            How fast did you notice a change in your skin after quitting coffee?
            High Weight: 225
            Weight at start of Primal: 189
            Current Weight: 174
            Goal Weight: 130

            Primal Start Date: 11/26/2012

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            • #36
              If you lose weight, you get loose skin. It has to do with weight loss, not with low carb.

              Any ethical plastic surgeon will tell you to wait a year after weight loss to give the skin a chance to tighten up before going the surgery route.

              I have a few crinkles under my chin where I used to have a double chin. At my age it would be reasonable to have a facelift, even if I had never lost any weight. So I don't blame the diet I have been eating. My arms have tightened up a lot, too. But who knows where they will be in a year?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by EagleRiverDee View Post
                This agrees with something my own doctor told me. She said that in some people, the oils from coffee do something to the liver that affects how the liver processes cholesterol and the LDL cholesterol in that individual goes up. A small switch can help- I changed from drinking espresso (no filter) to filtered drip coffee and my LDL cholesterol dropped.

                How fast did you notice a change in your skin after quitting coffee?
                Exactly. It's not so much about the caffeine per se although that is not good for you for lots of other reasons, it is about the liver. That's what the carnivores were saying too. Interesting to have that confirmed by a doctor.

                It took about 3-4 weeks to see the change clearly.

                I know it's a hard crutch to let go of but it might very well be worthwhile making the effort.

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                • #38
                  Damn. No more coffee?

                  I'm in, as soon as I'm through this last bag o' beans. Good whole bean coffee was one of my biggest food expenditures last year, as a matter of fact...
                  “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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                  • #39
                    *Gets out imaginary scale*

                    Places desire for delicious coffee on one side...Vanity on the other

                    LOL. That is a tough one- I do love my coffee. But it seems worth trying!
                    High Weight: 225
                    Weight at start of Primal: 189
                    Current Weight: 174
                    Goal Weight: 130

                    Primal Start Date: 11/26/2012

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                    • #40
                      i use my goat's milk soap on my face, but it is very very mild and has a lot of fat in it. Almost all fat, actually.
                      http://www.cantneverdidanything.net/

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                      • #41
                        Botox is NOT all there is left
                        But Botox works very well for specific areas- scowl lines. I used to always look mad, lol. However, it works by relaxing muscle, not improving skin.

                        Result: you've deflated the balloon of water, fat, and muscle under your skin, and some wrinkles have appeared. It'll take time for your skin to "tighten up" over the new, smaller substrate...longer and longer as you age.
                        I'm PRAYING this is accurate. My arms are alarmingly saggy now. The skin is just not reshrinking. I have good muscles, but the skin just hangs. LOL, maybe I'll start peeling my arms instead of my face.

                        http://maggiesfeast.wordpress.com/
                        Check out my blog. Hope to share lots of great recipes and ideas!

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                        • #42
                          BOTOX - I can not understand why somebody would want to inject bacteria (bacterium Clostridium botulinum) under their skin ????
                          Can someone explain to Gwamma - please
                          "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                          ...small steps....

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
                            BOTOX - I can not understand why somebody would want to inject bacteria (bacterium Clostridium botulinum) under their skin ????
                            Can someone explain to Gwamma - please
                            I think there are some actual medical uses for botox but for vanity purposes I would never do it. I also have no intention of every dying my hair (which is still a natural brown, for now with just a few greys). I do have some vanity but would rather address it through diet/exercise/sunlight. No drugs, no injections, no surgery.
                            High Weight: 225
                            Weight at start of Primal: 189
                            Current Weight: 174
                            Goal Weight: 130

                            Primal Start Date: 11/26/2012

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                            • #44
                              I scowl-a lot, without it. It causes some tension headaches and, well, I look pissed off all the time. Botox is safe and proven to be so, as well as temporary. I use it for vanity, but I can tell when I am due- I get tension headaches. It is a safe product, with additional therapeutic uses. It is not a painful process.

                              Totally not grok like, primal or natural. But not something that I feel puts my health at risk and it improves my appearance. I don't consider it to be any worse than dying my hair.

                              http://maggiesfeast.wordpress.com/
                              Check out my blog. Hope to share lots of great recipes and ideas!

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                              • #45
                                I do have some vanity but would rather address it through diet/exercise/sunlight.
                                LOL, I wish that diet/exercise and sunlight could help scowl lines, but alas it doesn't. The funny thing is that I don't notice them on other people. But people used to notice them on me.

                                http://maggiesfeast.wordpress.com/
                                Check out my blog. Hope to share lots of great recipes and ideas!

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