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  • Oh seriously, political debating is mental masturbation. Politics swings from one extreme to the other - different idealogies, same basic result (war, repression, exploitation). It never changes because people have not learned to get on with each other on the most basic levels. How can we stop going to war with countries at the other side of the world if we can't stand the sight of our families?
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
      Oh seriously, political debating is mental masturbation.
      IMO, the real mental masturbation is believing you can live sealed off from politics.

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      • I think for many people here Primal is an extension of their dislike of conformity and mindlessness. Unfortunately within any system of thought you reach invisible lines that the majority don't want to cross. People need safehouses - they need to believe that what they believe in is right. I don't believe that I can experience an objective Truth - I know that everything that resonates with me as truth is subjective. The unfortunate thing is that this can make a person very apathetic...

        On a slightly different note, did anyone realise what a looker Stalin was when he was young? I'll follow you Joe!
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        "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

        In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

        - Ray Peat

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        • Originally posted by Rojo View Post
          IMO, the real mental masturbation is believing you can live sealed off from politics.
          When did I say I could live sealed off from it?
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • Originally posted by keithpowers View Post
            I'm not debating the way Germany does their thing; in fact, I admire their prudent approach.
            I am, however, extremely skeptical of countries that do not have that level of financial structure in place, and still resolve to spend money as if they do.
            Germany got a pretty good ride out of the Euro, which was essentially the Deutsche Mark-plus. Lending the Mark's buying power to under-powered economies gave those economies the ability to buy German products that they couldn't pre-Euro.

            As those countries slide, the Germans are quick to move on to exporting machine tools to BRIC countries.

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            • Oh seriously, political debating is mental masturbation. Politics swings from one extreme to the other - different idealogies, same basic result (war, repression, exploitation). It never changes because people have not learned to get on with each other on the most basic levels. How can we stop going to war with countries at the other side of the world if we can't stand the sight of our families?
              but but marx engels hayek mises pound sterling derivitives isms look how smart I am!
              "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

              Jack london, "Before Adam"

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              • Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
                but but marx engels hayek mises pound sterling derivitives isms look how smart I am!
                fuck dead people!
                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                - Ray Peat

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                • ^ That sounds really bad...
                  "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                  In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                  - Ray Peat

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                  • LOL I am glad that you remembered though. I do not understand why so much neurological energy is trapped on these pale phantoms while the living cry out their rather evident problems and obvious solutions.
                    "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                    Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                    • Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
                      LOL I am glad that you remembered though. I do not understand why so much neurological energy is trapped on these pale phantoms while the living cry out their rather evident problems and obvious solutions.
                      Talking is a way of venting frustration and feeling like you're doing something. It's an illusion though.

                      Personally I think that if people channelled all that energy into improving their relationships the world would become a better place more quickly than we could imagine.
                      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                      - Ray Peat

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                      • Truth I hope; I abandoned politics in 2013 and am concentrating on my marriage instead. I have a feeling that my living conditions will improve measurably and ripple outward in orbits from me.
                        "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                        Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                        • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                          ^ That sounds really bad...
                          Not really primal at all if you ask me.
                          Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                          Griff's cholesterol primer
                          5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                          Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                          TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                          bloodorchid is always right

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                          • Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
                            I do not understand why so much neurological energy is trapped on these pale phantoms while the living cry out their rather evident problems and obvious solutions.
                            "Evident"? "Obvious"?

                            There really aren't "solutions" that won't but heads with someone's sense of justice, iow, ideology.

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                            • Originally posted by keithpowers View Post
                              Because the feeder nations haven't yet spent all of Germany's money once theirs ran out? Seems legit.
                              Well, I was referring to the countries who run their own currencies and don't tie themselves to foreign cultures.
                              My chocolatey Primal journey

                              Unusual food recipes (plus chocolate) blog

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                              • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                                Not really primal at all if you ask me.
                                Really?! And here I was thinking that Primal was all about dead animals...

                                (Too much?)
                                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                                - Ray Peat

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