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  • Originally posted by Rojo View Post
    Why is this necessary?
    Worse than any fundamentalist Bible pusher or Scientologist, you are a true disciple of the Frankfurt School. There is no helping social engineers; warning others is the best option. Likely, you are a feminist, homosexual, handicapped, or in some other way marginalized and therefore deeply averse to success. I doubt you're an ethnic minority though; fairly certain you are an estrogen dominant white from a major metropolitan area where your indoctrination took place. The irony of course being that you hate white people and western civilization, which is evidenced by your willingness to give the most destructive, pernicious set of ideals to ever scourge the earth a chance to wreak more havoc on the American continent in the name of avenging inequality, colonialism, and thaving the aminalth.

    Your grandfather may not have called Hitler a leftist, but he understood perfectly well that the details of a government's beliefs don't matter when they have absolute control. No sir, it takes an expensive, modern indoctrination to regard objective truths the way a vampire regards sunlight.

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    • Originally posted by sakura_girl View Post
      Why socialism so successful in Europe? Is it because people have stronger cultural ties to each other and overall have culturally inherited that mentality?
      Because the feeder nations haven't yet spent all of Germany's money once theirs ran out? Seems legit.
      Peak weight on Standard American Diet: 316.8 lbs
      Initial Weight When Starting Primal: 275 lbs
      Current weight: 210.8 lbs
      Goal weight: 220 lbs (or less): MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

      The way "ChooseMyPlate.gov" should have looked:
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      • Originally posted by Nicator View Post
        Worse than any fundamentalist Bible pusher or Scientologist, you are a true disciple of the Frankfurt School. There is no helping social engineers; warning others is the best option. Likely, you are a feminist, homosexual, handicapped, or in some other way marginalized and therefore deeply averse to success. I doubt you're an ethnic minority though; fairly certain you are an estrogen dominant white from a major metropolitan area where your indoctrination took place. The irony of course being that you hate white people and western civilization, which is evidenced by your willingness to give the most destructive, pernicious set of ideals to ever scourge the earth a chance to wreak more havoc on the American continent in the name of avenging inequality, colonialism, and thaving the aminalth.

        Your grandfather may not have called Hitler a leftist, but he understood perfectly well that the details of a government's beliefs don't matter when they have absolute control. No sir, it takes an expensive, modern indoctrination to regard objective truths the way a vampire regards sunlight.
        I love it when conservatards throw around the term "social engineering," as if it only applies to left-ish beliefs. How are religion, bigotry, and patriarchy, and nationalism not examples of social engineering? Afterall, those three things can only be sustained through violence and the brainwashing of small children.
        “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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        • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
          I love it when conservatards throw around the term "social engineering," as if it only applies to left-ish beliefs. How are religion, bigotry, and patriarchy, and nationalism not examples of social engineering? Afterall, those three things can only be sustained through violence and the brainwashing of small children.
          The left doesn't use religion of marx & communism/socialism to brainwash? Yes, they do

          The left doesn't use intolerance under the guise of tolerance to brainwash children and stymie freedom of expression? Yes, they do

          The left doesn't use bigotry against those that don't agree with their ideals? Yes, they do (your conservtard comment is bigotry)

          As for the patriarchy? Lol that's some cultural marxism bullcrap that should be out to pasture by now

          Nationalism is part of statism and has been used by everyone to do their bidding, especially the Left

          Progressive/socialist/communists/statists continue their march to destroy the country so they can rebuild it in the way they want and only then will they see the price of their foolish ideology and the destruction it's wrought.

          ps. I'm not a conservative
          Starting Date: Dec 18, 2010
          Starting Weight: 294 pounds
          Current Weight: 235 pounds
          Goal Weight: 195 pounds

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          • Truth but both suck. One sucking =/= the other being better.
            "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

            Jack london, "Before Adam"

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            • Good point Kenn, the left and the right have a lot in common. Time for some new ideas. The whole free market vs socialism is so tiresome.
              Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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              • Why is there not a Prosecution Party? Proof to me that the political class is only ever more interested in suckling from government titty than helping anyone harmed by the State and its corporate market collaborators. Millions and millions and millions would fight in the streets for officials whose platform was, "well...we are going to put them on trial on youtube, hang them, and reappropriate their wealth."
                "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                • Originally posted by Nicator View Post
                  Worse than any fundamentalist Bible pusher or Scientologist, you are a true disciple of the Frankfurt School. There is no helping social engineers; warning others is the best option. Likely, you are a feminist, homosexual, handicapped, or in some other way marginalized and therefore deeply averse to success. I doubt you're an ethnic minority though; fairly certain you are an estrogen dominant white from a major metropolitan area where your indoctrination took place. The irony of course being that you hate white people and western civilization,...

                  Yawn... a fair amount of that applies to me and none of it really matters. Rojo has ideas that are functionally wrong... they don't work in the real world no matter how theoretically beautiful (s)he may find them. That's what matters.

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                  • Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
                    Truth but both suck. One sucking =/= the other being better.
                    ^this. We do need something better, but what is it? Is humanity even capable of something better? I don't know...

                    Has primal ruined my life? Like some of the others it is making it very difficult to go over to people's homes for a meal. "Oh you're gluten free? I have some preformed, post-masticated, ammonia washed, meatless, breadlets for you instead!"

                    I am afraid I may lose friends over it. I know that I could just eat it and be with them so that I am not letting food come between us, but having people reject me because of my food choices is also them allowing food to come between us. I should be able to go somewhere and simply say "no, thank you" and that is the end of it. I don't mind going hungry, but this does not seem like an acceptable option to most people.
                    Female, age 51, 5' 9"
                    SW - 183 (Jan 22, 2012), CW - 159, GW - healthy.

                    Met my 2012 goals by losing 24 pounds.
                    2013 goals are to get fit and strong!

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                    • Originally posted by Nicator View Post
                      Worse than any fundamentalist Bible pusher or Scientologist, you are a true disciple of the Frankfurt School. There is no helping social engineers; warning others is the best option. Likely, you are a feminist, homosexual, handicapped, or in some other way marginalized and therefore deeply averse to success. I doubt you're an ethnic minority though; fairly certain you are an estrogen dominant white from a major metropolitan area where your indoctrination took place. The irony of course being that you hate white people and western civilization, which is evidenced by your willingness to give the most destructive, pernicious set of ideals to ever scourge the earth a chance to wreak more havoc on the American continent in the name of avenging inequality, colonialism, and thaving the aminalth.

                      Your grandfather may not have called Hitler a leftist, but he understood perfectly well that the details of a government's beliefs don't matter when they have absolute control. No sir, it takes an expensive, modern indoctrination to regard objective truths the way a vampire regards sunlight.
                      Boy, you really nailed me. I'm a nihilisitic nancy boy.

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                      • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
                        I love it when conservatards throw around the term "social engineering," as if it only applies to left-ish beliefs.
                        We're all socially-engineered from the time of birth.

                        For 10's of thousands of years a man could leave his cave/teepee/yert/etc... and walk wherever he pleased, the only impediments being natural (cliff, ocean, river, etc..). Not now. The governments of the world have carved up and fenced off God's green earth for private gain. Yet somehow this isn't "social engineering". It isn't a freakish imposition on our freedoms, but something "natural".

                        In Marxist philosophy, cultural hegemony describes the domination of a culturally diverse society by the ruling class, who manipulate the culture of the society — the beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values, and mores — so that their ruling-class Weltanschauung becomes the worldview that is imposed and accepted as the cultural norm; as the universally valid dominant ideology that justifies the social, political, and economic status quo as natural and inevitable, perpetual and beneficial for everyone, rather than as artificial social constructs that benefit only the ruling class.

                        Funny thing about being brainwashed: only the brainwashed are sure they're not brainwashed. That' how it works.

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                        • Originally posted by keithpowers View Post
                          Because the feeder nations haven't yet spent all of Germany's money once theirs ran out? Seems legit.
                          You mean the Germany with strong unions, a strong social safety net, high government spending, etc...? That Germany?

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                          • stupid discussion is stupid. Obviously all existing ideologies are failed ideologies, because all ideologies are in play, and mankind is still losing bad.
                            "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                            Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                            • Originally posted by Rojo View Post
                              You mean the Germany with strong unions, a strong social safety net, high government spending, etc...? That Germany?
                              Yeah, that one. You know, the one that is basically keeping the European Union (and therefore, the Euro) from collapsing under the weight of debt? Without that economy, Italy, Greece, Portugal, et. al, would long ago have collapsed.

                              I'm not debating the way Germany does their thing; in fact, I admire their prudent approach.
                              I am, however, extremely skeptical of countries that do not have that level of financial structure in place, and still resolve to spend money as if they do.
                              Peak weight on Standard American Diet: 316.8 lbs
                              Initial Weight When Starting Primal: 275 lbs
                              Current weight: 210.8 lbs
                              Goal weight: 220 lbs (or less): MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

                              The way "ChooseMyPlate.gov" should have looked:
                              ChooseMyPlate

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                              • Originally posted by Rojo View Post

                                In Marxist philosophy, cultural hegemony describes the domination of a culturally diverse society by the ruling class, who manipulate the culture of the society — the beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values, and mores — so that their ruling-class Weltanschauung becomes the worldview that is imposed and accepted as the cultural norm; as the universally valid dominant ideology that justifies the social, political, and economic status quo as natural and inevitable, perpetual and beneficial for everyone, rather than as artificial social constructs that benefit only the ruling class.
                                This is why Marx's analysis is still worth reading. Too bad so many have a knee jerk reaction when any reference to him is made.
                                Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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