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  • #16
    moc4.jpgmoc3.jpgmoc2.jpgmoc5.jpgmoc1.jpgHey folks.I'm back from school now. The moccasins I am talking about,I first saw in the movie "The Hunted" with Tommy Lee Jones. In the movie they wear these and are said to be super quiet. After a long search online I finally found them. There is a couple of makers who make these. I chose the maker I did due to price(lower). Although, they are the same moccasin. I will post pics.The black pair I've had for 10 years and have never had to have it re-soled. To extend the life of the sole,I chose a conveyor belt sole. It's real thin and makes a slight difference in whether barefoot or not. I liked my first pair so much that I had Paul Wilson make me another pair. This time saddle/tan color. I love these just as much. My son is 10 and he already wants me to save them for him when he grows up. I would buy him a pair,but with his foot still growing I wouldn't want to replace these every year or two. Once you stop growing,these are great to buy. Yes, they are a little pricey,but I just kept the add ons to a bare minimum. You get to chose your buttons. I chose the ones that were metal and were free. Once you go to the site you will understand. Now, how does a guy in Oregon make a moc that is made for your foot? Well, once you place an order Paul will send you a dvd of how to cast your foot. This is a simple process that uses an old sock and duct tape. That's it. A perfect cast of your own foot. You send that to Paul and in 3 weeks you get your new moccasins in the mail. When you get them,Paul sends you the pattern he made for your moccasins. This way you can keep up with it and if you want another pair down the road,just send the pattern back. No more castings. EagleRiverDee, you said above that you would like no sole just leather. Well,Paul will do this,but it makes it more expensive to repair if you ever wear through. The next best thing is what he calls Goop Sole. It's applied after the mac is finished and is very very thin. It will have to be re applied with wear, in which you can send them back to him or buy the Goop in a jar and do it yourself. That was my first option,but then I went with the conveyor belt sole. I don't regret that at all. Anyway, to see what my black ones looked like new,look at the Stealth Trackers on the site. Yes, he sells a lot of these to hunters for being quiet while hunting. When you look at the price,just figure,like I did, the final price divided by 25 years. That is what you are basically spending for shoes for life. And it's cheaper.

    Custom Moccasin Styles, Stealth Trackers, Tracking Moccasins, Bow Hunting, Western, Renaissance, SCA, Earthing,Tactical,Police, Military, Go Green, Earthing, Barefoot Moccasins, SodHoppers
    Start date 1/28/13--Height 5'11" Weight 260 lbs. Goal weight 175 lbs.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
      OMG thank you!
      Must. Buy.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
        OMG thank you!
        Must. Buy.
        You are very welcomed. Even though the buffalo hide seems thick to the touch,it is so supple and breathable. The buffalo hide is the key to this mocs longevity.
        Start date 1/28/13--Height 5'11" Weight 260 lbs. Goal weight 175 lbs.

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        • #19
          Custom Moccasin Styles, Stealth Trackers, Tracking Moccasins, Bow Hunting, Western, Renaissance, SCA, Earthing,Tactical,Police, Military, Go Green, Earthing, Barefoot Moccasins, SodHoppers I looked into these some years ago when they were called Bald Mountain. They are nice and custom made but boy were their prices expensive. Seems like they were over $1000 for a pair.
          Would I be putting a grain-feed cow on a fad diet if I took it out of the feedlot and put it on pasture eating the grass nature intended?

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          • #20
            Those sodhoppers ones are pretty sweet. There are other makers of similar shoes. ShoemakerSharon's Photos or Boots, Nativearth Olde Soles: Handmade boots, shoes, and leather accessories. are two examples. There are several others. You probably have to either apply a goop sole yourself or ask them to do it for some of the other makers since they feature images of thicker soles. Basically any turnshoe can have a goop sole or none at all, but I'd hate to pay so much money for a bare sole that will wear out fast. I consider all of these to be different than actual moccasins, though.
            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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            • #21
              Sodhoppers are pretty good. I know a lot of people who swear by 'em. Catskill Moccasins is also good, if you're in the New York area. Catskill Mocs take a mold of your foot to build the mocs around. I have a pair. They're a tiny bit tighter than I'd prefer in the toes, but otherwise perfect.

              Edit: Seems Sodhoppers also take a mold of your foot. Didn't know that before.
              Last edited by Strife; 01-30-2013, 12:12 PM.
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              • #22
                this is interesting. I am wearing barefoot shoes (and leather socks)... this is another level.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Scott F View Post
                  Custom Moccasin Styles, Stealth Trackers, Tracking Moccasins, Bow Hunting, Western, Renaissance, SCA, Earthing,Tactical,Police, Military, Go Green, Earthing, Barefoot Moccasins, SodHoppers I looked into these some years ago when they were called Bald Mountain. They are nice and custom made but boy were their prices expensive. Seems like they were over $1000 for a pair.
                  Yeah,Bald Mountain changed their name I believe to Mystic Soles. The ones that were worn in the movie were actually made by Catskill Mountain Moccasins. Of course they both were expensive. That's why I went with Sodhoppers. Plus,they are made the same way.
                  Start date 1/28/13--Height 5'11" Weight 260 lbs. Goal weight 175 lbs.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by saady View Post
                    this is interesting. I am wearing barefoot shoes (and leather socks)... this is another level.
                    Leather socks???
                    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                      Those sodhoppers ones are pretty sweet. There are other makers of similar shoes. ShoemakerSharon's Photos or Boots, Nativearth Olde Soles: Handmade boots, shoes, and leather accessories. are two examples. There are several others. You probably have to either apply a goop sole yourself or ask them to do it for some of the other makers since they feature images of thicker soles. Basically any turnshoe can have a goop sole or none at all, but I'd hate to pay so much money for a bare sole that will wear out fast. I consider all of these to be different than actual moccasins, though.
                      Sharon apprenticed under Craig Stanton of Catskill Moccasins. Not sure of her price ,but I know Catskill is more than Sodhoppers and you get the same quality.
                      Start date 1/28/13--Height 5'11" Weight 260 lbs. Goal weight 175 lbs.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Strife View Post
                        Sodhoppers are pretty good. I know a lot of people who swear by 'em. Catskill Moccasins is also good, if you're in the New York area. Catskill Mocs take a mold of your foot to build the mocs around. I have a pair. They're a tiny bit tighter than I'd prefer in the toes, but otherwise perfect.

                        Edit: Seems Sodhoppers also take a mold of your foot. Didn't know that before.
                        Yeah, both are good it's just ultimately the difference in the price. The original designer of these types of mocs,back in the 70's, of course had apprentices. As they became makers,they had apprentices. That's how we have the few that make them today such as Catskill,Sodhoppers,and Mystic Soles,aka Bald Mountain Moccasins. In fact,Paul sells a dvd set for apprenticeship. I bought it and it is very detailed. I can actually make my own. Although,I've never bought a sewing machine to make them. That's on my to do list.
                        Start date 1/28/13--Height 5'11" Weight 260 lbs. Goal weight 175 lbs.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                          Leather socks???
                          I second that question. Leather socks????
                          Start date 1/28/13--Height 5'11" Weight 260 lbs. Goal weight 175 lbs.

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                          • #28
                            I was recently directed to Medieval Moccasin, which has very adjustable sandal-style moccasins. Lots of lacing. They do use a neoprene rubber sole, not sure how thick it is.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by scottishscott View Post
                              Yeah, both are good it's just ultimately the difference in the price. The original designer of these types of mocs,back in the 70's, of course had apprentices. As they became makers,they had apprentices. That's how we have the few that make them today such as Catskill,Sodhoppers,and Mystic Soles,aka Bald Mountain Moccasins. In fact,Paul sells a dvd set for apprenticeship. I bought it and it is very detailed. I can actually make my own. Although,I've never bought a sewing machine to make them. That's on my to do list.
                              Small world. I bought Paul's DVD but I think I had the wrong kind of leather because I absolutely could not possibly fit into the shoes I was making. The leather was so stiff and hard. I ended up making a hybrid of his method and Sharon the Simple Shoemaking lady's methods.

                              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                                Small world. I bought Paul's DVD but I think I had the wrong kind of leather because I absolutely could not possibly fit into the shoes I was making. The leather was so stiff and hard. I ended up making a hybrid of his method and Sharon the Simple Shoemaking lady's methods.

                                Yes it is a small world. Paul has a great program doesn't he? Did you have him make you a pair? If I may ask,what type of leather did you use? The ones pictured above look good. I can't really tell,but, did you sew them inside out? The pic kind of looks like where the sole and upper are sewn that it's edge to edge on the outside. I may be wrong.
                                Start date 1/28/13--Height 5'11" Weight 260 lbs. Goal weight 175 lbs.

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