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    Apologies if my English isn't perfect!

    Just some short background:
    After a short and successful online adventure I have saved some money(6-7 figures USD) and I will soon get my MSc in Engineering and it's time to get out into the real world. I've come to realize that I might be happier some other place than where I live right now. It's hard to live primal with long hard winters and people are not very tolerant to different lifestyles here. And my social life is a bit lacking with most of my friends having kids.

    So I ask the forum, where in the world would be the best place to move to?

    Things that I value:
    -Nice and temperate climate. Many days of 60-80F (15-25C) and not too many days when you just want to stay inside. Here we can have 3 months of -5F(-20C) and 9months of <60F(15C), it's just too cold, gray and rainy for my taste.
    -Options of being in beautiful nature and various exercise options.
    -Vibrant paleo/primal lifestyle community
    -Good organic food availability
    -Good work situation for engineers(employment, salary, taxes, housing)
    -Easy to meet new people for a semi-introvert/normal guy

    What is the best place in your opinion?

    What are your thoughts on:
    -San Jose/Silicon Valley
    -San Diego
    -Santa Fe
    -Barcelona
    -Where you live
    -Other place

    Thanks a lot!

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    Cape Town!!! It's got a very California feel, but the weather is even better. It's laid back, has a vibrant boho community, and people are really into health and fitness. Plus it's beautiful - it's got the mountain and the sea. That's where I'd go.

    San Diego would work well too, but the American visa is a nightmare to get.
    Barca is super cool, but mostly art-music-party driven.
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    • #3
      This has absolutely nothing to do with your original post, but I honestly cannot resist asking how you came to choose your user name? I have been intrigued by what, if anything, is meant by it.
      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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      • #4
        I vote for San Diego but then I may be just a little biased on the subject.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
          Cape Town!!! It's got a very California feel, but the weather is even better. It's laid back, has a vibrant boho community, and people are really into health and fitness. Plus it's beautiful - it's got the mountain and the sea. That's where I'd go.

          San Diego would work well too, but the American visa is a nightmare to get.
          Barca is super cool, but mostly art-music-party driven.
          Excellent answear. I had a great time in Africa last time. Not really sure about the safety and Cape Town is a bit far away from everything and not really sure about the economy. But maybe I should give it a try.

          The VISA situation for USA makes it harder yes. I will try to get a hard and sought after degree, hopefully some company might want to sponsor me. Will have to look into this.


          Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
          This has absolutely nothing to do with your original post, but I honestly cannot resist asking how you came to choose your user name? I have been intrigued by what, if anything, is meant by it.
          Not sure how it translates, but here we use taliban for somebody who is very fundamental about something. I can be a bit zealous with my paleo lifestyle running barefoot, eating raw chicken and stuff like that. Didnt consider that it might have different meaning in the states. Hope I dont offend anyone considering the tragic events 11years ago.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by paleotaliban View Post
            Not sure how it translates, but here we use taliban for somebody who is very fundamental about something.
            I think it means the same thing here. When my friends play poker, the dealer gets to call the wild card. If he wants no wild card, we call that "taliban" style.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by paleotaliban View Post
              Excellent answear. I had a great time in Africa last time. Not really sure about the safety and Cape Town is a bit far away from everything and not really sure about the economy. But maybe I should give it a try.
              I think the danger aspect in S.A is a bit overblown. I was always reticent to go, but I ended up spending two and a half months there last year and had the most amazing time. Sure, parts are dangerous, but you keep your wits about you.

              Another advantage is that it's only 2+ hours GMT - which is convenient for keeping in touch with folk back in Europe.

              AND, from what I know - the economy is steadily developing there. Gooo Cape Town!

              cape_town.jpg

              Saying all that though, San Fran would be my first choice. Such an amazing place. Damn you elitist American Visa administration..,
              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

              - Ray Peat

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                I vote for San Diego but then I may be just a little biased on the subject.
                Paleobird, my little sister is going to UCSD right now and absolutely loves it. It's beautiful, from what I've seen of it myself. I'd put in a vote for Orange County since it is my home, but SD is nowhere sloppy seconds
                F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                • #9
                  i agree with you,it means the same thing here. When my friends play poker, the dealer gets to call the wild card.thanks

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Damiana View Post
                    Paleobird, my little sister is going to UCSD right now and absolutely loves it. It's beautiful, from what I've seen of it myself. I'd put in a vote for Orange County since it is my home, but SD is nowhere sloppy seconds
                    UCSD is a gorgeous campus right there near the cliffs overlooking the ocean.

                    Has little sis tried out Black's Beach yet, the nude beach right there?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by paleotaliban View Post
                      Not sure how it translates, but here we use taliban for somebody who is very fundamental about something. I can be a bit zealous with my paleo lifestyle running barefoot, eating raw chicken and stuff like that. Didnt consider that it might have different meaning in the states. Hope I dont offend anyone considering the tragic events 11years ago.
                      I was wondering the same thing a Crabbcakes, but using "taliban" to describe someone who is very fundamentalist about anything is very interesting. I have never heard of that before, but I think my location explains that. I personally don't find it offensive per se, but you definitely couldn't get away with using that around here without making some people upset. I love the cultural differences on this board though!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                        UCSD is a gorgeous campus right there near the cliffs overlooking the ocean.

                        Has little sis tried out Black's Beach yet, the nude beach right there?
                        Considering she won't even get naked in a sauna and complains about the fact that I prance around the house in too liitle clothing, no
                        F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                        "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                        • #13
                          Denver

                          caveat: not for people who have to be near water, but otherwise very primal-friendly both culturally (we have a good mix of bleeding hearts and individualists, hence why colorado always shows up purple on the red state/blue state thing), and in terms of amenities
                          Last edited by Chaohinon; 01-12-2013, 07:20 PM.
                          The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fresa View Post
                            I was wondering the same thing a Crabbcakes, but using "taliban" to describe someone who is very fundamentalist about anything is very interesting. I have never heard of that before, but I think my location explains that. I personally don't find it offensive per se, but you definitely couldn't get away with using that around here without making some people upset. I love the cultural differences on this board though!
                            It bugs me a bit, but only for the fact that I am female and have all daughters for kids, and the news has been rife yet again with Taliban misdeeds like shooting adolescent girls in the head for agitating for education and such. As I was raised with an Army grunt dad, I have heard a lot and can take a lot, rough humor and all, and even though I don't consider myself susceptible to knee-jerk PC reactions, yeah, seeing this user name caught my attention.

                            Naturally the OP can name himself/herself whatever, and I sincerely thank the OP for the response, but considering this is a US-based website, and the Taliban ain't exactly an organization to emulate, I find it unfortunate. The reason I asked so nicely was that I saw the OP listed Sweden as location. As I have foreign family and know cultural problems well, I figured it might be something innocent.
                            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                            • #15
                              Sydney ticks most of those boxes
                              Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                              Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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