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  • #46
    Originally posted by Gay Panda View Post
    Oh, it's so much worse than the singular Shelob from LOTR!!! Bilbo and his dwarf tribe are under assault by a legion of Shelobs. I can't believe this little book was stretched into a trilogy for the movies, and I twitch every time Bilbo moans about wanting bacon because I ran out.
    Oh, no... darling!
    The Hobbit trilogy movies are not based solely on the book... they are interspersed with materials from the entire middle earth history and backstory that JRRT wrote and kept in order to tell the story of some of the characters more thoroughly, like Gandalf.
    It was provided by the family for the making of the movies. At a steep price I'm sure.

    Also, go buy bacon... cook it, then eat a piece every time Bilbo whines.
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    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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    • #47
      Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
      Oh, no... darling!
      The Hobbit trilogy movies are not based solely on the book... they are interspersed with materials from the entire middle earth history and backstory that JRRT wrote and kept in order to tell the story of some of the characters more thoroughly, like Gandalf.
      It was provided by the family for the making of the movies. At a steep price I'm sure.

      Also, go buy bacon... cook it, then eat a piece every time Bilbo whines.
      WINNING!
      Yeah, I'll eat my bacon and think sucker. Teach you to leave home with a bunch of dwarves with weird rhyming names!

      I can't decide if I should read The Silmarillion next. I think Lady Friend has a copy, but I don't remember her liking it that much.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Gay Panda View Post
        Yeah, I'll eat my bacon and think sucker. Teach you to leave home with a bunch of dwarves with weird rhyming names!

        I can't decide if I should read The Silmarillion next. I think Lady Friend has a copy, but I don't remember her liking it that much.
        I've read it.
        I'd say generally only serious middle earth nerds read it.
        It's not the nice easy stories that Hobbit and Rings are.
        But I did enjoy it.
        I will qualify that with what I often tell people... I enjoy reading a LOT of things others don't. Tolstoy and Proust for instance.
        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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        • #49
          Well, I definitely don't fall under the Middle Earth nerdly banner, so maybe I'll skip it and clean out my brain of this awful James Patterson book I read with some better thriller. It was one of the worst books I have ever picked up.

          I read that he signed a contract to produce 17 books in 3 years and my jaw went
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Gay Panda View Post
            Well, I definitely don't fall under the Middle Earth nerdly banner, so maybe I'll skip it and clean out my brain of this awful James Patterson book I read with some better thriller. It was one of the worst books I have ever picked up.

            I read that he signed a contract to produce 17 books in 3 years and my jaw went
            You know that "James Patterson" is just a banner name for a whole group of ghost writers at this point right?
            Check an inner cover somewhere and it should list the actual writer(s).

            That's why the books under his name are so prolific and so inconsistent.
            They are farmed out to writers contracted to write a plot line in a specific style and then edited by the James Patterson Inc team to be more James Patterson like. But the bigger it gets and the more books per year they put out the shoddier it becomes of course.

            I used to PM with a woman who wrote for him on another forum about some aircraft specific stuff because I had helicopter experience being a tech on the guidance and control devices in the USAF, and having a good understanding of flight mechanics etc.

            Also, my creative writing Prof in college about 2 years ago (fairly well known published writer, who LOVE'd me *bats eyelashes*, well... my writing anyway) explained the Patterson thing, and had some special things to say about it. None of them particularly flattering btw.
            Last edited by cori93437; 01-13-2013, 03:11 PM.
            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
            ~Friedrich Nietzsche
            And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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            • #51
              I knew he had a ton of 'co-authors', but it makes much more sense that he just shoots a fart bubble with an idea in it to other writers and they do the brunt of the work.

              But where is the fun in that? I love the process of putting books together, everything from those initial notes to the final edits. Handing those notes off to someone else and then having the book published with my name on it would feel very weird.

              * sure he consoles himself with his many millions *
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              • #52
                [QUOTE=Gay Panda;1060862I can't decide if I should read The Silmarillion next. I think Lady Friend has a copy, but I don't remember her liking it that much.[/QUOTE]

                The Silmarillion is basically a history textbook, and it's about as much fun as reading one. (Unless you like history like me)

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Gay Panda View Post
                  I knew he had a ton of 'co-authors', but it makes much more sense that he just shoots a fart bubble with an idea in it to other writers and they do the brunt of the work.

                  But where is the fun in that? I love the process of putting books together, everything from those initial notes to the final edits. Handing those notes off to someone else and then having the book published with my name on it would feel very weird.

                  * sure he consoles himself with his many millions *
                  It's a packet system.
                  Here's a packet with half-fleshed characters and the bones of a plot.
                  Then they have a very specific formula they have to write by, hitting dramatic action points every "x" number of pages and such.
                  They just provide the fill.
                  It's kind of weird.
                  The compensation is a pittance compared to what Patterson gets out if the deal as well.

                  Originally posted by Kata View Post
                  The Silmarillion is basically a history textbook, and it's about as much fun as reading one. (Unless you like history like me)
                  Or just a M. E. nerd and not that into general history.
                  Though I do like most stuff up to modern history, the older stuff is fun. Modern history is just so BLEH.
                  “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                  ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                  And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                    Or just a M. E. nerd and not that into general history.
                    Though I do like most stuff up to modern history, the older stuff is fun. Modern history is just so BLEH.
                    Agreed. Ancient history is FASCINATING! Anything after about 1500 is boring to me.

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                    • #55
                      Thinking about porn (outside of addiction) and history... and correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't people be exposed to seeing the sex act more frequently in ancient cultures?
                      Female, age 51, 5' 9"
                      SW - 183 (Jan 22, 2012), CW - 159, GW - healthy.

                      Met my 2012 goals by losing 24 pounds.
                      2013 goals are to get fit and strong!

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