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    Before and After Becoming Low Fat Raw Vegan - 30 Bananas a Day!
    Apparently, she and those on the forum believe that she has improved. They seem to "understand" health VERY differently to the way we do. Oh, and there's this as a bonus too: Robb Wolf: "How come his wife Nicki Violetti is overweight?" - 30 Bananas a Day! Apparently building some muscle now makes you "overweight".
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    what's it to you what s/he eats? bananas are a whole food. if it makes them happy, and saves more meat for me, i'm all good with it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jakey View Post
      what's it to you what s/he eats? bananas are a whole food. if it makes them happy, and saves more meat for me, i'm all good with it.
      It's just the fact that they start arguments on other sites about how "unhealthy" Paleos are. I'm showing an example of what they perceive to be "healthy". Pointless arguing with someone who's taking such a different angle to you on EVERYTHING.
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      • #4
        I'm sure this thread will pull in plenty of trolls from that crowd, but I after reading through some of comments in that post about Nicky Violetti I had to respond...

        This quote from the big cheese on that site made me lmfao

        "Im down to 62kg after having 30 days off the bike pretty much. I think I need to start adding in some more fats so people dont get too scared off by how lean fruit makes you in the long run.

        Line up elite marathoners, meth addicts and long time fruit eaters and they all look pretty much the same. lol! Im not sure thats a good or bad thing."


        and a response by another poster:

        "Well, I'm not saying you look like a meth head HXrley, but if that's your current look, in the video, I'd guess you were in your late 40s and not eating much. What happened? Maybe it's just the downward angle of the video? :-/"
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        • #5
          This is my go to site for info about 30bad.
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          • #6
            Robb's wife looks like a very healthy and attractive woman--excessive leanness is not good for women and Freelee or whatever her name is looks like she could definitely stand to gain a few pounds. Not that she's not a hottie, but she'd probably be even better looking with another 15 pounds of meat (muscle AND fat) on her. And 10 more years of fruitarianism will probably age her by 25 visually.
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            • #7
              These women look grotesque, like ED patients. And the comments that follow are even more disgusting.
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              • #8
                I think I remember Robb Wolf saying somewhere (twitter, maybe?) that Nicki Violetti is pregnant in that photo.

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                • #9
                  Excessive leanness.... is not the end for everyone who becomes a Vegan. There are a lot of fat vegans. Hell, there are a lot of lean SAD eaters for that matter. You can cherry pick both attractive and unattractive examples of any diet. Hell, my friend is vegan and she looks like a thick fireplug. Very fit, but stout. I have curves. The really thin woman eats a SAD diet.

                  Holy crap... I hate that super lean, gaunt look because it looks like hell when you age. It might look lithe at 25. And I hate men that look like I could break them.

                  I think all in all, the best before and afters are often of the people older than 50 on this site. Some of those have been amazing. I don't give a flying fuck what a 25 year old woman doing any diet looks like.... when I start seeing a bunch 55 and olders in bikinis that look amazing.... that just recently got in shape.... that's the advice I want!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kochin View Post
                    It's just the fact that they start arguments on other sites about how "unhealthy" Paleos are.
                    isn't that what vegans were put on this earth to do? jump up and down and preach low and behold to evil meat eating carnivores

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                    • #11
                      And the comments that follow are even more disgusting.

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                      • #12
                        seriously pointless! their brains are so starved for nutrients, and their bodies are cannibalizing themselves, they have no common sense. I mean, look at DurianRider, he can't even string together a sentence that isn't littered with spelling and grammar mistakes.

                        They think that eating a diet that ancient man used to possibly eat (fruitarian) is logical, yet they discard the Paleo/Primal diet?? Doesn't make sense.
                        Last edited by QueenOfTheDwarrows; 01-07-2013, 06:51 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Freelee and durianrider are such terrible trolls that a lot of their followers are sick of their shit, and they've been accused of running a cult (although probably not intentionally) since anyone who dissents immediately gets banned and all their comments deleted.

                          I dunno if they're just mentally unstable, poor debaters, nutritionally deficient, or jokesters pulling off some elaborate routine, but a troll is a troll is a troll, and the only way to not have to deal with them is to quit taking the bait. The OP is such obvious troll-bait that it's safe to assume Kochin is working with them.

                          Notice how whenever someone posts a specific key word like "nazi" or "israel", anna5 shows up and starts trolling everyone in sight. The 30bad people operate the same way. About every month or so, someone like the OP starts a thread along the lines of, hey, have you heard of these 30bad people? *hotlink* *keyword* *hotlink* They're trashing paleo! *youtube link* *keyword*, then everyone else takes the bait, and we end up getting flooded with more 30bad trolls.

                          Figure it out, guys.
                          “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
                            Freelee and durianrider are such terrible trolls that a lot of their followers are sick of their shit, and they've been accused of running a cult (although probably not intentionally) since anyone who dissents immediately gets banned and all their comments deleted.
                            for realsies? that seriously makes me happy insomuch as anything said on the internet can make someone feel lighthearted and gay

                            I dunno if they're just mentally unstable, poor debaters, nutritionally deficient, or jokesters pulling off some elaborate routine, but a troll is a troll is a troll, and the only way to not have to deal with them is to quit taking the bait. The OP is such obvious troll-bait that it's safe to assume Kochin is working with them.

                            Notice how whenever someone posts a specific key word like "nazi" or "israel", anna5 shows up and starts trolling everyone in sight. The 30bad people operate the same way. About every month or so, someone like the OP starts a thread along the lines of, hey, have you heard of these 30bad people? *hotlink* *keyword* *hotlink* They're trashing paleo! *youtube link* *keyword*, then everyone else takes the bait, and we end up getting flooded with more 30bad trolls.

                            Figure it out, guys.
                            oh come now, trolls need love too!!!1!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
                              Freelee and durianrider are such terrible trolls that a lot of their followers are sick of their shit, and they've been accused of running a cult (although probably not intentionally) since anyone who dissents immediately gets banned and all their comments deleted.

                              I dunno if they're just mentally unstable, poor debaters, nutritionally deficient, or jokesters pulling off some elaborate routine, but a troll is a troll is a troll, and the only way to not have to deal with them is to quit taking the bait. The OP is such obvious troll-bait that it's safe to assume Kochin is working with them.

                              Notice how whenever someone posts a specific key word like "nazi" or "israel", anna5 shows up and starts trolling everyone in sight. The 30bad people operate the same way. About every month or so, someone like the OP starts a thread along the lines of, hey, have you heard of these 30bad people? *hotlink* *keyword* *hotlink* They're trashing paleo! *youtube link* *keyword*, then everyone else takes the bait, and we end up getting flooded with more 30bad trolls.

                              Figure it out, guys.
                              Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not a troll. I was just showing why I'm never engaging in a debate with them ever again (and why others should probably reconsider before debating them). If someone's view of "healthy" is pointy, bony elbows, no periods in women and visible ribs, then how can we show them that Primal is healthier? In their mind, I (a 164cm female, UK size12, size10 wasit, WHR 0.7, 65kg, 20% body fat) am "overweight".
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                              Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

                              --
                              I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
                              I'd apologize, but...

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