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  • #16
    Originally posted by solstice View Post
    I just watched Dr. Lustig's video called Sugar the Bitter Truth
    Sugar: The Bitter Truth - YouTube
    and he explains how fructose and ethanol (alcohol) are both mainly metabolized in your LIVER...so perhaps that is the connection?

    Start the video at 51 minutes to get to ethanol info!
    Thanks, I will watch!
    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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    • #17
      Being a Professional Drinker most of my life, yes, I have found that sugar and alcohol
      are absolutely connected.

      I can't remember what medical document I read once, but IT said the same thing.

      Sorry I don't have proof.

      Anyway, what I have found, is when I'm enjoying my BOTTLE of wine a night, as I did
      when my mother in law was here for ten days, I couldn't have given two shits about all the
      chocolate and the plethora of cookies I had baked, but two weeks before that I went on
      a cookie and see's candies bender that lasted a good few days.

      Anyway, it has just been my own personal experience, since I basically started drinking
      nightly at 18 (I'm 44 now), when there are nightly cocktails I don't want sweets (doesn't
      matter what I'm drinking either, bacardi, vodka, chardonnay).

      But when I quit drinking for any length of time (quit for a year and recently for
      6 months), just thinking about the candy aisle at 7-11 would make me turn inside
      out with anxious cravings for cannnnnndy, GLORIOUS CANDY! Resee's p-butter cups
      being my go-to fave.

      Now that the MIL has gone back to MN, and the holidays are over, I'm going to have a
      f*ck of a hard time getting off the sauce and NOT reverting back to candy.

      I call this period of transition: "Two Weeks of Bitch".

      Thank God it only happens twice a year (my MIL also comes out in the summertime for
      10 days and drankin' is what we DO!).

      So there you have my own professional opinion and experience.

      One leads to the other, or one becomes the other.

      Hard to quit both, but it CAN be done.

      I've found that adding more starch into my diet, like potatoes (all kinds)
      really, REALLY helps the sugar cravings. REALLY. Totally not kidding.

      So maybe Two Weeks of Bitch will turn into One Week of Bitch.

      Julie

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      • #18
        Another anecdotal piece of evidence: 15 years ago, I was put on demerol to stop pain from a kidney infection while pregnant. It was a glorious experience. First narcotic I'd ever had. For the next decade, whenever I'd even think the word 'demerol,' I'd get the same giddy gut feeling as if I were thinking about cheesecake. I was a terrible sugar addict all thattime, bingeing at least twice a day.

        When I beat back the sugar problem with nutrition, I realized that I stopped feeling giddy when I remembered the demerol, too. It happened overnight, like, 10 years later, I felt just as giddy as the first year after having it, but 11 years later, nothing.
        5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
        Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
        Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
        Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
        ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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        • #19
          Originally posted by InSearchOfAbs View Post
          Anyway, what I have found, is when I'm enjoying my BOTTLE of wine a night, as I did
          when my mother in law was here for ten days, I couldn't have given two shits about all the
          chocolate and the plethora of cookies I had baked, but two weeks before that I went on
          a cookie and see's candies bender that lasted a good few days.

          Anyway, it has just been my own personal experience, since I basically started drinking
          nightly at 18 (I'm 44 now), when there are nightly cocktails I don't want sweets (doesn't
          matter what I'm drinking either, bacardi, vodka, chardonnay).

          But when I quit drinking for any length of time (quit for a year and recently for
          6 months), just thinking about the candy aisle at 7-11 would make me turn inside
          out with anxious cravings for cannnnnndy, GLORIOUS CANDY! Resee's p-butter cups
          being my go-to fave.
          Alright, that makes about five (with badger and hotrodkristina) of you MDA-ers with direct alcohol-sugar experiences. So now I know this isn't some personal fluke.

          Julie, I think I like you... I was never the type for just one glass of white wine - if I was going to do it at all, and if it is something to my taste, why leave any in the bottle? Better yet, just head for the bourbon.

          Makes me sound like a lush, but I haven't drunk so much since my twenties, back when I was living in Germany. In fact, I just got back from a trip to see the extended family there, whom I haven't seen since my late twenties when I moved back to the US, and literally from the second hour after I landed it was a wine and booze fest - 14 days worth. Well, there was also a wedding in the middle there, so hey. Then I return home to the start of Christmas season, and this is the time of the year when I generally allow myself some experimentation at home with various alcoholic beverages just because I really enjoy discovering new tastes - not just in alcohol, but in herbs and meats and veggies and such, too.

          Time to formulate a battle plan...
          I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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          • #20
            with this...

            Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
            When I beat back the sugar problem with nutrition (snipped)
            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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            • #21
              Originally posted by HotRodKristina View Post
              The only thing that helps me not crave a huge, carby dinner when I don't drink is lots and lots of glutamine. I take 3G daily.

              I've read that those prone to sugar (or booze) are lacking in it, and this time it is really helping me not want a drink as soon as I get home from work (and by drink, I mean 3-4 beers, or a bottle of champagne, or a couple gin martinis). I wonder if it has something to do with glutamine repairing the gut, and/or the brain, who knows. But it helps.

              And yeah, my family is littered with functioning alcoholics, and by that I mean people who can quaff a fair amount of booze every single night and do fine the next day (albeit suffer from a thick waistline)
              I will research glutamine, thank you!

              Yeah, I can hold my booze, too, and always could. It would be nice if I puked and fainted after one drink or something extreme like that, then none of this would ever be a thread, but from the first drink I ever took (at 18) it sat well. Good thing my mother sat me down and warned me of the things getting don't-remember-shit drunk can cause (she knew from personal experience and wanted to spare me those types of experiences), so I have never gone beyond a certain point.

              Well, that, and watching my dad rescue the frat boys at the college fraternity where he used to be the cook. One even managed to hot wire a steam roller from an ODOT (Ohio Department of Transportation) site and start driving it down the road in the middle of the night. Stupid, but funny as hell! Nobody got hurt, dad bailed the boy out, his mom sent my dad a huge present, and then I think the mom lit into her wayward child... But the lesson I got from that was if you go too, too far, the po-lice tend to get involved, and I never want that.
              I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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              • #22
                Yeah, I never could and still can't understand those people that
                can have ONE glass of wine, or ONE cocktail. What for?

                My real super duper drunkard days, when I moved out at 18 and got my
                own place, consisted of a bottle of Vodka a night or Bacardi.

                I may have drunk dialed some ex-boyfriends, but I never blacked out
                or got sloppy ass drunk, either.

                Tolerance of steel and I think I have 5 livers instead of one....

                Then at 26 when I met my now husband, it changed to wine. Lotsa wine. We went out
                to dinner ALL the time and got two bottles of wine between sitting down and leaving.

                Oh noes! The husband has a high tolerance as well!

                Good times, good times.

                Then at 33 I found myself in a Family Way (snort!) and even the sight of alcohol
                made me want to puke, which was pretty damn funny because, HELLO, nightly alchie!

                Since then I've had to grow up and grow a pair, cuz ya just can't be porking back piles
                of booze when you have kids. Gotta parent up and realize it's not just you, you, you
                anymore.

                But every two weeks I may have a bottle of wine, or, like when the MIL was here, it WAS
                every night....... Good times, too.

                I still woke up the next morning full of piss an vinegar, nary a hangover in sight and was
                able to do my dog walking job PLUS all of my motherly duties.

                Not saying that being a nightly alchie is advisable, but there IS a difference between that,
                and HAVING to start off your morning with a stiff one. That was never me.

                And the people (my friends and family) saying I was drinking to escape something - PLEASE.

                Partying is fun! Drinkin' is fun! Wahoo! I don't do it because I'm down in the dumps woe is me,
                wah, wah, wah. I do it because it's rarrr! rarr! rarrr! FUN!

                Anyway, but, like I said, back to once every two weeks or once a month now that the holidays
                are over, cuz I'm old, I've partied enough, and, well, it makes me fat.

                So there!

                Julie

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                • #23
                  Booze = Fat for me, much more than wheat or sweets. Since Jan 2nd I've had two beers (Newcastles, which tasted kinda yucky, actually) and I can already see my waist coming back. I've been 90/10 so far, today being an exception with a donut this morning and a couple pieces of pizza this evening.

                  But the calories from that pizza pale in comparison to the calories I used to imbibe each night.

                  Yes there were reasons I drank so much, but I'm channeling that energy into my creative endeavors - and making money from my art is much more of a rush than getting drunk. Journaling helps too. Also the fact that I can now sleep though the night without insomnia attacks, and waking up without bags under my eyes (my skin is so much better now!)

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