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  • #16
    No matter how old you get it's only ever RIGHT NOW and as far as you know, you have ALWAYS existed. I mean, can you even remember a time when you didn't exist and will you ever actually experience not existing?

    I'm basically just interested in living life to the fullest. I admit to not doing as well at that as I could since I spend a lot of time sleeping in front of the TV.
    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jakey View Post
      i'm with richmahogany and carlh. i actually don't care as much about longevity as many people do. it's about quality of life, and being able-bodied for me. i really don't want to go out in a long, drawn-out manner, with a lack of dignity. alzheimers or dementia, or cripling illness, oy vey.
      Ditto. Tbh if I get to 50 happy and healthy I'll be pretty satisfied.
      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

      - Ray Peat

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      • #18
        I should add, I'd love to be immortal, for the very reasons sbhikes mentions. It's only ever right now. As a kid, I used to visit local plants and watch them grow. When life allows, I'm a very zen person, even before I knew what that meant I knew how to achieve it. If I could feel young and strong forever and not lose my senses - yeah. I'd love to live in every country for 100 years and learn all the languages, customs, attitudes, etc. I'd take a few thousand year vacation and watch mountains rise and fall, recording it with drawings. Earth is just NOT a boring place.
        Crohn's, doing SCD

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        • #19
          not me, sadly most days I don't want to live... eternity just sounds dreadful.
          -Ryan Mercer my blog and Genco Peptides my small biz

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          • #20
            I have (used to have?) a shirt with a viking on it that said "My goal is to live forever. So far, so good!"

            I fear death, but I don't want to live forever unless my loved ones are there with me.
            --Trish (Bork)
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            • #21
              I only want to live longer if everybody else lives longer. When it is just me living longer, I feel that my perception of time and value will be skewed, and will not contribute as much to society, at least instinctively.

              Wouldn't it be amazing for everybody to live longer at the same time though? Generations of knowledge having to be passed down would no longer be an issue. But then again, it would have to depend on the degredation of your cells and how healthy you are in general.

              100 is about right for me. Or up until cacao becomes extinct.
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              • #22
                I think I'd be okay outliving everybody. Everybody just moves away anyway. I feel like I've already lived ten different lives as it is. People are, on the whole, disposable and replaceable. They come and go, much like TV shows and books. Just when you start liking them a bit, they're done, gone, whisked away. Since I've learned to stop making friends and investing my time in relationships, life has only been better and more manageable. Communication is stressful and largely fruitless, I'd rather watch grass grow.
                Crohn's, doing SCD

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                  I'm basically just interested in living life to the fullest. I admit to not doing as well at that as I could since I spend a lot of time sleeping in front of the TV.
                  I hear you. I feel like I waste so much time dawdling on the internet and recovering from general life...! I'd prefer to live more and die younger...

                  Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post

                  I fear death, but I don't want to live forever unless my loved ones are there with me.
                  Thanks for your honesty. I suspect that most people are afraid of death but don't admit it / think about it.

                  Originally posted by ryanmercer View Post
                  not me, sadly most days I don't want to live... eternity just sounds dreadful.
                  Sorry to hear that Ryan
                  "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                  In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                  - Ray Peat

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                  • #24
                    I am curious so part of me want's to live forever and find out what happens. But if the world continues the way it is maybe I don't want to know. Overall whatever time I have left I want to be active. I want to live, to do all those things I have never done. And I want to be healthy enough to do that. I see too many people who are miserable because of their health.
                    You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

                    Age 48
                    height 5'3
                    SW 215 lbs
                    CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
                    LW 172 lbs
                    GW 125ish lbs

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                      I should add, I'd love to be immortal, for the very reasons sbhikes mentions. It's only ever right now. As a kid, I used to visit local plants and watch them grow. When life allows, I'm a very zen person, even before I knew what that meant I knew how to achieve it. If I could feel young and strong forever and not lose my senses - yeah. I'd love to live in every country for 100 years and learn all the languages, customs, attitudes, etc. I'd take a few thousand year vacation and watch mountains rise and fall, recording it with drawings. Earth is just NOT a boring place.
                      Exactly. +42.
                      Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

                      My Primal Journal

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                        Kind of a deep one but here goes -

                        If you reflect on it, what is the motivating factor behind your healthy eating?
                        Self-experimentation, and vain reasons(maintaining youthful appearance as long as possible, people around look like zombies most of the time.)
                        Do you secretly hope that by eating well you'll postpone the Grim Reaper?
                        Death is inevitable. Regardless of how healthy you are, accidents, random acts of violence, etc; are not that much of a rarity anymore. Death can come swift and without warning. I try not to give myself any false sense of security. Everyone will die.
                        Are you trying avoid the slow, steady health decline many associate with old age?
                        Yes. The current, and past rate of living theory are flawed and wrong. Intelligence, health, and aging are all intrinsically linked with metabolism.
                        OR, are you trying to live life to the fullest?
                        Unfortunately no. I live a mundane life that is wholly unsatisfying. Happiness is the absolute key to health above all.

                        And finally (most morbidly) - have you got an age in your head that you'd like to live until?
                        Haven't really thought of it. The entire human species is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Even those who have etched themselves permanently into history, are insignificant in the totality of existence.

                        That said though, the short time that we all spend alive, is better spent in the company of loved ones(I have a romantic idea here, that I'll save for later). I think coming to terms with dying, growing older, but having someone to grow older with, will help make your passing more pleasant. It all contributes to the happiness factor.

                        Currently, though, as the world is now, and having said above^ I would definitely decline immortality.
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                        • #27
                          For me its all about avoiding decrepitude. Don't care how long I live so long as I'm active and competent. Age targets are pointless
                          Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                          Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                          • #28
                            I'm not afraid of aging or death really all that much, but I"m not welcoming it either, if you know what i mean.

                            We eat healthfully so that we can age well -- so that we can look younger, of course, so pure vanity, and also so that we can feel good and have great mobility and independence until the end.

                            I figure living to somewhere between 80-100 with really good quality of life would be nice.

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                            • #29
                              I don't care about living longer. I'm not afraid of death. My main motivation right now is maintaining my good looks for as long as I can; that's why I do primal.
                              F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                              "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                              • #30
                                My short-term motivation (as a 51yo woman): look good (in clothes and naked), have lots of energy and eliminate the blood sugar issues that come with eating grains & sugars
                                My long-term motivation: as the mother of a young adult with autism who may never be able to live independently, I want to live a long life in order to take care of him, and I want to remain healthy because he won't be able to take care of me if I get sick!

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