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  • Originally posted by otzi View Post
    I think a lot of us are trying to stay LC/VLC for no real reason. Carbs are easy to count and easy to avoid, so it's kind of the low-hanging fruit, so to speak. I think the real shame, though, is even people on the higher end of low carb are still at 'zero-starch', getting all their carbs from sugary fruit and green veggies. It wasn't until I started adding in starchy carbs that I started doing much better...in weight loss, working out, and general feelings of health.

    We were looking at Resistant Starch, and came up with some cool facts:

    Most SAD people get 3-5g per day of RS.
    Most Paleo/Primal people get less than 1g per day RS.
    Ancestral peoples got nearly 50g per day RS.
    Eating 1 pound of potato per day, with half of it cooked and cooled, and a few slices of raw potato will provide 10-15g/day.
    oh I know. I was zero starch during that time. And even to eat another BAS might mean another 5 grams or more depending what was on it, and that might just be what would put you over the 50grams

    Which sounds like no big deal but when the weight loss stopped, others are like well obviously you must be eating too much. Go lower carbs. Go lower calories. Go longer ... it will happen... And then there's the total calorie thing. Eating another 50 - 100 calories of veggies might just push you over the calorie limit.... uuggghh

    Okay so anyways, it works for some I guess. So not bashing that either. There was just no medical reason for me to do it. Now, after Thanksgiving and after Christmas, I did find it helpful to do a couple days of HF/LC but then went back to my 3 way split after that, and even a few tator days or mostly tators.

    Anyways, it's all good. Now I know what works for me. I just feel like I spun my wheels for over half a year trying to figure it out. ugggh. But this will be my year
    65lbs gone and counting!!

    Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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    • Originally posted by gopintos View Post
      oh I know. I was zero starch during that time. And even to eat another BAS might mean another 5 grams or more depending what was on it, and that might just be what would put you over the 50grams
      I know exactly what you are saying. When I first saw PHD recommending 1 pound of potato (or safe starches) a day, I was like, 'Oh, HAIL no'. Then after the 'Eat MOAR TATER' trials, I realized that it could be done...1 pound of potato is only about 500 calories, very easy to fit in your day. Considering that your gut bacteria eat up a portion of it, it only really gives you 3-400 calories and the added benefits of the resistant starch.

      I'm glad I did the LC/VLC thing, but even happier I found out starch isn't the enemy and have been successful adding it back in as a daily staple and not just using it as a twice-a-year diet hack.

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      • Originally posted by otzi View Post
        I am working on dialing in the PHD ratios of starch/veg/meat, so far I am liking 1 pound of potato, 1 pound of fruit/veg, and 1 pound of meat as the baseline for my daily food intake.
        Trying this myself now, SOOO easy, no need to care about calories or macro ratios, I just weight out a pound of spuds and sweet potato combined in the late morn, boil it up, eat half hot at lunch and half cold in the evening. 2 meals, 1/2 pound of meat for each, then load as many veg as I fancy. Butter and olive oil to suit, then perhaps 1 tbsp CO in the late morning.

        Will report back in body comp changes, but hell I feel full of energy, fab!!

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        • Potato update and data point.

          Between 9 pm last Sunday and 6 pm yesterday (~ 4 days) all I ate was peeled russet potatoes either as hash browns or oven roasted fries, some cold, only spiced with salt, pepper, vinegar, Tabasco. I think I ate about 2.5 pounds per day at lunch and dinner (16/8 IF schedule).

          I am male, 54 yo, with body fat estimated at 13-14%. My weight fell over this period from 160 pounds to 155 pounds.

          I experienced some elevated hunger, but not unmanageable. exercise was limited due to a sore and swollen knee. I was surprised given thE volume of food input that there was not more output out the other end, though not constipated, just less frequent activity. I also am a too abundant consumer of nuts, cheese and red wine, all of which were cut and all of which are typically implicated in stalls.

          I am Overall pleased and happy to be back on a less boring and tastier regimen. Still trying to limit wine, nut, and cheese consumption to shed another 3+- pounds.

          OneDeltaTenTango,
          Over and out.

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          • Jo, thanks for the welcome, and I look forward to following your future posts since we seem to be at a similar point of simple CICO not being the answer for some reason. I think I myself will return to more normal clean eating, similar to where this thread seems to be going, good whole, real food with potatoes mixed in. They can taste quite good, and are an impressive filler for the calories.

            Even though the potato diet wasn't effective for me, I would like to thank Otzi and all the regular posters for feeding these interesting threads, giving me things to try and think about. It was not a waste, it was interesting and informative.

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            • Originally posted by Dan_Gtp View Post
              Even though the potato diet wasn't effective for me, I would like to thank Otzi and all the regular posters for feeding these interesting threads, giving me things to try and think about. It was not a waste, it was interesting and informative.
              Thanks! It's been a learning experience for me, too. I was reading today in this thesis: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/ava...d/ALDfinal.pdf about the differences in starch types and importance of resistant starch. There is a statement in the paper about resistant starch being mis-classified and it should really be listed as a dietary fiber. If that were the case, everybody would be eating potatoes! We all got so scared of 'carbs' we lost sight of health. I think the sooner people start getting more good starch back in their diet, the further we will be toward an optimal diet.

              I'd cut-n-paste the line, but the paper won't allow it! If anyone figures out how, let me know.

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              • I did 4 days of partial potato - 12oz of roasted sweet potato with garam masala for a late breakfast several hours after coffee with 2T heavy cream and then 12 oz of white potato with ACV, salt and pepper for a late lunch. Dinner was smallish and primal, though included a beer 2 days. I'm down 4 lbs in 4 days. The last of the holiday lbs are gone.

                This "diet" is really great for me! I love potatoes. I can steam them en masse and then refrigerate in meal sized portions. They taste fine to me cold or reheated. My only issue is that after 5 days of 1.5 lbs of potatoes per day, my insides are really rumbly. I may try one potato meal per day and see what that's like.
                50yo, 5'3"
                SW-195
                CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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                • Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                  I did 4 days of partial potato - 12oz of roasted sweet potato with garam masala for a late breakfast several hours after coffee with 2T heavy cream and then 12 oz of white potato with ACV, salt and pepper for a late lunch. Dinner was smallish and primal, though included a beer 2 days. I'm down 4 lbs in 4 days. The last of the holiday lbs are gone.

                  This "diet" is really great for me! I love potatoes. I can steam them en masse and then refrigerate in meal sized portions. They taste fine to me cold or reheated. My only issue is that after 5 days of 1.5 lbs of potatoes per day, my insides are really rumbly. I may try one potato meal per day and see what that's like.
                  Wow thats great loss . The rumbly tummy passed for me after a few days. Whether it has something to do with the gut bacteria getting used to the increase in starch I'm not sure.

                  One thing I am finding which is quite odd. In the past if I ate a bunch of carbs I would put on about 1.5 - 2.0kg overnight and be really bloated. It would then take 2 or 3 days to get back where I was. When I eat a bunch of carbs now, I put on less than 400g which is gone by the end of that same day. Not sure if its because glycogen stores are already topped up due to increased starch in the diet now or what is going on exactly.
                  Time for a plate of chips and sauce LOL ( When I am feeling too lazy to cook I end up eating potatos, they are so easy to cook and so tasty )

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                  • Hello everyone,

                    I just joined the MDA forums so I could participate in this thread. I am currently on day 3 of the secret tater ďdietĒ and I have mixed feelings about it so far. I think my metabolism is ďbrokenĒ. Iím down to the last 20-25 pounds to meet my goal/ideal weight, and itís sooo freaking hard to lose anymoreÖ. I have been eating ďrelatively clean VLCĒ since October 2010 when I was rather fat (180 lbs) and unhealthy (Iím female 31, 5í2Ē very light frame, currently stuck between 125-117lbs). I dropped 60 pounds by June 2011 and thatís where Iíve been stuck since. I spent a whole year gaining and dropping the same 5 pounds. I knew that I tend to gain weight easily, but I didnít have an ďahaĒ moment until I did a BG tolerance test in my physiology class, after ingesting about 60 grams of regular coke carbs. My BG readings for 0, 3, 30, 60, 90 min were 77, 76, 140, 168, 128 respectively. Thatís when the time frame of the experiment ended, but it was enough for me to see that other classmates had their BG peak and drop Ėreturn to normal- much sooner than me. I know VLC tends to make one insulin resistant, so I donít know if that reaction there was because of being LC for long, or because I really am irreparably screwed up, and stuck eating LC for life. I can pretty much look at carbs right now and gain weight (>30g carbs/day = weight gain).

                    I know it says here the tater reset is not for people with metabolic issues, but Iím so tired of being stuck, I figured the worst that could happen would be another 5 or so pound gain. (It now takes me a couple months to lose 5 pounds with VLC eatingÖ totally frustrating). I weighed myself on the second morning of the tater reset and I was 121.6, and today on the 3rd day, I was 123.3 (I believe I started off on day 1 at around 122.8). Iím eating nothing but baked (mostly cold) taters with salt. Drinking waterÖhaving a bit of plain coffee today. Iím not too surprised with this morningís weight because last night I ate 5 taters in one sitting, and it was an awful experience (waited too long to eat so I went crazy by the time I could sit down and eat). 3 hours later, I had a nasty glucose crash.. bad enough I got weak and sweaty, so I just went to bed to avoid eating more.

                    I still have about 20 pounds of raw taters left, so I plan to finish that and see how I feel/look after. My caloric intake for the 2 complete days so far was around 900 cal total. I ate till I didnít feel hungry. Iím pretty sedentary so I donít have a huge caloric requirement. On LC I never counted calories, so this is new to me. My digestive system has so far been very rumbly and uncomfortable. I definitely feel bloated. I donít eat the tater skins. I donít know of any sensitivity to taters. They were a big part of my diet as a kid in the poor country I grew up in. Iím going to try smaller quantities of taters every few hours to avoid BG crash, and Iím totally jealous of those who drop even 1-2 pounds in the first days, since Iíve only gone up so far. Lol

                    Anyway, sorry for the long storyÖ Iím not ready to give up on the tater reset yet, even though my metabolism appears to be off (!?!?)..so I was wondering, are there any people here with known metabolic issues who have had some success with this reset? Some success is better than none. I love taters, and I'd love for this to work for me, even if it's just a few pounds before I resume LC.

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                    • This sounds great! I am going to give it a shot starting tomorrow.

                      I'm in my 20s, 5'3", and weigh 128 lbs.
                      I lift and do cardio a few times a week.

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                      • Originally posted by SiberHusky View Post
                        I love taters, and I'd love for this to work for me, even if it's just a few pounds before I resume LC.
                        If it doesn't work out, I'd like to suggest keeping potatoes in your daily eating, especially cooked and cooled or even a few slices raw. You may be starving your good gut bacteria resulting in poor gut health. Potatoes can fit well in a LC plan, 1 med potato only has about 32g carbs, of which many are resistant starch that don't count against total carbs, like dietary fiber.

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                        • Originally posted by macintosh View Post
                          This sounds great! I am going to give it a shot starting tomorrow.

                          I'm in my 20s, 5'3", and weigh 128 lbs.
                          I lift and do cardio a few times a week.
                          Good luck...here's more reading if you need inspiration:
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread72366.html (really good results, lots of people)
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread67137.html
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread67450.html
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread70009.html

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                          • Originally posted by otzi View Post
                            If it doesn't work out, I'd like to suggest keeping potatoes in your daily eating, especially cooked and cooled or even a few slices raw. You may be starving your good gut bacteria resulting in poor gut health. Potatoes can fit well in a LC plan, 1 med potato only has about 32g carbs, of which many are resistant starch that don't count against total carbs, like dietary fiber.
                            Thank you for the input Otzi. I was thinking the same thing earlier...Instead of being VLC, enjoy some carbs here and there from taters since I really don't care for most "veggies". I love potatoes. To me they are a bit of a gateway food towards really bad carbs, but if I'm eating plenty of fat and decent protein, I think I'll be ok. I'm going crazy craving meat and fat at the moment, so I may have to resume my regular way of eating soon.

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                            • I did 4 days and then ran out of potatoes so stopped there. It was 7 pound lose in those 4 days. Since then I have been Paleo but have added in the 1 pound of potatoes a day, usually Ĺ pound for breakfast and Ĺ pound for dinner. And continue to lose, slower rate about 2 pounds in three days. So I can safely say that potatoes don’t hinder my weight loss at all. Now I’m going to read the PHD and more strictly follow that protocol and see what happens though I suspect I’m actually close to it now.

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                              • I'm doing a reset for the next 3 or 4 days. Today I was looking at my chart the last 7 days, and I lost 3.7lbs the first 3 days, was feeling pretty invincible, and then BAM! I gained 3.9 the last 4 days. So I guess it is Tator Time.
                                65lbs gone and counting!!

                                Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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