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    Hello all! So, I have been primal for 4 months now. At first, things went swimmingly, but now my weight lost has stalled and I am constantly hungry. I eat tell I am satisfied and don't try to limit my calories. It seems that every 2 or so hours I have to eat again no matter how much I eat in the prior meal. Here is some additional information:

    I eat 6-9 servings of vegetables a day.
    My carb intake is from between 60-90 grams a day
    I mostly eat beef, pork, and eggs for my meats.
    I am consistently in minor ketosis (I use testing strips)
    I have tried carb refeeds (300+ good carbs), but they fail to alleviate the problem
    I get 6-8 hours of low level aerobic activity a week
    I do a sprint workout every week
    I have IBS
    I take adderall and celexa
    I supplement with digestive enzymes, COQ10, vitamin D, fish oil, and magnesium.
    Despite attempts to increase sleep quality, I consistently wake up during the night and sleep poorly

    Any thoughts, opinions, or solution would be greatly appreciated! This is very disheartening :/

  • #2
    You don't mention fat at all - how much fat do you eat?

    Personally speaking, fat is what stops me from feeling hungry.

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    • #3
      Did you lose at least 10-20% of body weight and prior to that maintained the weight for a long time (a few years)? If so, your body may be pushing you back towards isostasis, the old weight. You might have to accept a small weight re-gain and no further loss for a few weeks to let the things settle down.

      You might want to explore your satiation mechanism, such as adding a lot more fat and dialing back carbs or increasing protein by protein dominant foods like tuna, pollock, turkey breast, egg whites (or both). Or trying plain foods with high satiation index, like plain boiled potato or beans. Check which meats satiate you the best. Salmon >>eggs and beef>> pork for me for example.
      check the volumes of food you are getting. See if adding bulk vegetable or turning salads into soups helps
      Do not be afraid eating every 2 or 3 hours if the hunger is persistent, but eat very slowly, and stretch every meal for eat least 30 min.
      Try drinking bone broth or cleansing lemonade (1/2 lemon, sea salt to taste, chili pepper to tatse)
      before going to bed have a couple of tablespoons of nut butter or a handful of nuts.

      Hope this helps!
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      • #4
        I would say my fat intake is pretty high. For example yesterday, my breakfast was 3 pieces of bacon, 3 pastured eggs, and 2 cups of sauteed vegetables with lots of clarified grass fed butter on top. I also had a huge salad with 2tbsp of olive oil, 15 olives, and an avocado. Finally I had 1lb of ground beef patties. As a side not I never drain my grease and just put it on my vegetables. That is a pretty standard day for me except I always include 2 or 3 snacks usually baked broccoli, kale chips, or squash accompanied by a hard boiled egg/jerky.

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        • #5
          I lost 5% of my mass in the first month and I have been at my weight for 12 years. I will definitely try high protein meats and see if that helps! I'll also try the bone broth

          As a side note, one sweet potatoe (200-300 cals) will keep me full longer than 2-3 times as many calories of fat/protein.
          Last edited by Ammonetti; 12-20-2012, 09:32 AM.

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          • #6
            have you considered eating more? depending on whether you are male or female, your size, your age, etc.. and your body composition and weight loss goals, you may just need to eat more. if you're a 6'5", 250lb man with 25 more lbs to lose, that's different than a 5'2" 250lb woman with 125lbs to lose.

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            • #7
              If your satiation mechanism is starch (as evidenced by sweet potato), try first simply adding some plain boiled peeled white potatoes. If you feel fuller but gaining weight, cut back fat while retaining white potatoes.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                have you considered eating more?
                Occam called. He wants his razor back.
                The Champagne of Beards

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                • #9
                  simple thing is to up carbs, from roots, tubers etc. I find that if I am low on those, and not replacing glycogen stores, I am hungry all the time.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                    have you considered eating more? depending on whether you are male or female, your size, your age, etc.. and your body composition and weight loss goals, you may just need to eat more.
                    Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                    Occam called. He wants his razor back.
                    Occam already got his razor back, didn't hear about that? Or OP, have you considered resetting your hunger switch ie eating less or dare I say it, intermittent fasting, or outright fasting? Most people, CW people, eat too much already & have not tried IFing ever or tried it enough. A few months eating & living this PB way is still new for most metabolism imo. I went through "the hungries" several months into PB, fasting incrementally helped me get to a different, newer, better place in my estimation. Eating one's way out of one's problems or the stillness of autophagy, hm... Maybe try the latter & see what happens.
                    Last edited by Betorq; 12-20-2012, 02:27 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                      Occam called. He wants his razor back.
                      i must have missed his call. i think i had my phone set to vibrate or something

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                      • #12
                        I find this is usually always caused by insufficient carbs, specifically carbs from sources like roots and tubers.

                        Carbs from fruit don't seem to do the job. I guess they're mostly fructose and sucrose. You need long chain carbs in order not to feel hungry all the time.

                        This is my experience anyway.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ammonetti View Post
                          Hello all! So, I have been primal for 4 months now. At first, things went swimmingly, but now my weight lost has stalled and I am constantly hungry. I eat tell I am satisfied and don't try to limit my calories. It seems that every 2 or so hours I have to eat again no matter how much I eat in the prior meal. Here is some additional information:

                          I eat 6-9 servings of vegetables a day.
                          My carb intake is from between 60-90 grams a day
                          I mostly eat beef, pork, and eggs for my meats.
                          I am consistently in minor ketosis (I use testing strips)
                          I have tried carb refeeds (300+ good carbs), but they fail to alleviate the problem
                          I get 6-8 hours of low level aerobic activity a week
                          I do a sprint workout every week
                          I have IBS
                          I take adderall and celexa
                          I supplement with digestive enzymes, COQ10, vitamin D, fish oil, and magnesium.
                          Despite attempts to increase sleep quality, I consistently wake up during the night and sleep poorly

                          Any thoughts, opinions, or solution would be greatly appreciated! This is very disheartening :/
                          If you have IBS you might want to look at reducing your FODMAPS and getting more probiotics. But be careful with probiotics as they can cause greater symptoms in people with IBS. I have fructose malabsorption (cause of IBS for many) and when I eat too high in FODMAPS I feel really stuffed and hungry at the same time. Too much starch can also be an issue.
                          Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                            i must have missed his call. i think i had my phone set to vibrate or something
                            Yeah, he said he needs it back to figure out the Mayan Apocalypse thing.
                            The Champagne of Beards

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                            • #15
                              tell him to stop reading the magazines at the end of grocery store aisles

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