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  • Originally posted by otzi View Post
    You are a woman, correct? For some reason, the only group who reports not losing on the potato diet is women. I think you actually are losing fat, but maybe fluctuating up in water weight. Do you normally fluctuate in weight throughout the month? I guess you will have to look at longer term trends to see if it is working for you as opposed to daily readings.

    I'm a guy, so not really qualified in this area...
    Now see, I am one of the totally lucky, fortunate and blessed beings (that oozes sarcasm) that has the
    gift of bloating up anywhere from 3-5lbs of water during ovulation AND pre-ladytime.

    Please, please, everyone, calm down. No, you can't be me. I know everyone wants to be, but I'm
    sorry, this area of water bloat is all mine. ALL MINE!

    When I started the potato challenge a couple of weeks ago, I started on cycle day 18 - way far away from
    ovulation AND ladytime. It was perfect.

    But then starting on day 24, watch out. Spongey was in da house.

    Back up to 128lbs on cycle day 27. Seriously. And like I said, I DID fall into a mixing
    bowl of cookies, but not 17,500 CALORIES WORTH. Jesus wept!

    So yeah, water fluctuations totally suck for us womenz.

    Even today, cycle day 4, I'm down to 124lbs and still the water hangs on. It'll be Saturday
    before the bloat is gone, which will be cd7, which means in another 5 days or so, I get to
    bloat up all over again for another 4 days. God.

    Those/these times are usually the time I get a BIG case of the fuckitols - (like sat/sun with
    the cookies), and reserve a big ol' table for Pity Party of One because "no matter what I do,
    I just can't lose weight".

    Bullocks.

    It's taken me 44 years to finally figure out that I have to RIDE OUT those damn bloat times
    and turn the other cheek whilst it's happening.

    It's hard though. I feel nasty, jiggly, clothes are tight and it's very disconcerting....

    But hey, for the other 17 days out of the month, it's great!

    So, ladies, (even if you're not cycling anymore) take all of that into consideration and
    do NOT throw in the towel.

    It just means that you're going to have to give something an actual GO for a couple months,
    not a couple weeks.

    Dudes can do it, we can't.

    Not saying eating only potatoes for a couple months, but eating real food and calorie restriction.

    Okay, fine, yeah, so, my coffee kicked in and I DO have diarrhea of the mouth, SUE ME!

    ~Anonymous

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    • omgawd you are friggen hilarious.

      I forgot you fell into the cookie dough.

      Oh I meant to tell you also, we do live in California, well southern California, well actually south of California, out in the country (California, Missouri)
      65lbs gone and counting!!

      Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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      • THAT IS NOT CALIFORNIA AT ALL!

        YOU ARE ON RESTRICTION FOR LYING!

        And, subsequently, you're only going to get a Costco-sized
        can of corned beef hash for xmas.

        Sorry, you brought it on yourself.

        Getting my hopes up like that, how DARE YOU.

        Still,

        ~Anonymous

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        • Originally posted by InSearchOfAbs View Post
          And, subsequently, you're only going to get a Costco-sized
          can of corned beef hash for xmas.
          At least it wasn't a lump of tator
          65lbs gone and counting!!

          Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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          • Disgusting corned beef hash in the can, that my mother
            used to eat RIGHT out of the can (can't get the image out
            of my head. My eyes, MY EYES!) is disgusting who knows what
            babyfood type meat WITH small cubes of potato.

            Most disgusting thing I've ever seen and smells like the shittiest
            dog food you've ever smelled.

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            • Originally posted by unchatenfrance View Post
              I'm just frustrated because I've tried everything - IF, keto, counting calories - and can't seem to break my homeostasis.
              Look into the Shangri La diet, which isn't actually a diet at all, but a tool for changing homeostasis or set-point. The theories behind the method is on the website, but basically it boils down to taking a significant dose of calories (often taken as a flavourless oil), with no perceived flavour - hold your breath or use swimmers noseclips) within a window of time (an hour each side of the dose) that has no food flavours, no gum, toothpaste, foods, drinks other than water. It seems to trick the brain into perceiving scarcity and hence lowering the set-point to lower appetite as a survival mechanism. Anyways, it works for many who try it and it allowed by to move past a stubborn set-point that I couldn't get past for years before I tried this. It was almost effortless. It's a great combo with primal eating, and I'm sure that part of the "satiety" effect of the potatoes is a similar idea - bland or tasteless calories. Website is Seth Roberts and The Shangri-La Diet.

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              • In other news, I've eaten only potatoes with bone broth all day. Then meatballs and tomato sauce on zucchini noodles for supper, with generous Parmesan cheese. Stuffed on a small quantity again.

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                • Originally posted by marthat View Post
                  In other news, I've eaten only potatoes with bone broth all day. Then meatballs and tomato sauce on zucchini noodles for supper, with generous Parmesan cheese. Stuffed on a small quantity again.
                  Hey, guys - i started a thread over in nutrition called Resistant Starch you might find interesting. Here's what I have found out today:

                  - The real magic of potatoes may be in it's resistant starch.
                  - Scientists are racing to figure out a way to isolate the resistant starch in potatoes so they can make big $$ adding it to other foods.
                  - The main benefits of the resistant starch is satiety (no duh), and blood sugar control.
                  - To maximize the resistant starch, you need to cook and COOL the potatoes. This starts a process called retrogradation that turns regular starch into resistant starch. The retrograded starch is treated and digested as short-chain fatty acids (fat) in the large intestine--how bizarre is that?
                  - Vinegar also aids in the conversion.

                  Next time I do the potato diet, I will include a larger portion of cooked and cooled potatoes for sure--this whole resistant starch thing kind of makes the whole potato diet a little more 'real'.

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                  • This time around almost all my potatoes have been previously cooked and cooled. Then reheated just before eating. I assume that doesn't impact the retrograded starch? That may be why reheated potatoes never have the same taste or texture as freshly cooked potatoes.

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                    • Does anybody else get horrible gas and cramping when eating just potatoes? I couldn't bear it any longer and ate a bunch of protein and fat on my 3rd day, and immediately the cramping subsided.
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                      • No! Are you removing the skins? Most of the people bothered with the nasty gas thing seem to be eating the tater skins.

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                        • Originally posted by marthat View Post
                          This time around almost all my potatoes have been previously cooked and cooled. Then reheated just before eating. I assume that doesn't impact the retrograded starch? That may be why reheated potatoes never have the same taste or texture as freshly cooked potatoes.
                          I love this:

                          "A study by Higgins et al, published in October 2004 issue of Nutrition and Metabolism showed that replacing 5.4% of the carbohydrate content of a meal with resistant starch [cold potatoes] increased fat oxidation by 23% in a sample of 12 study subjects. This increase is apparantly sustained throughout the day, even if only meal contains RS [cold potatoes]and the increased fat oxidation is sustained if one keeps eating RS [cold potatoes] on a daily basis. It appears that the RS [cold potatoes]changes the order in which the body burns food. Usually carbohydrates are used first, but when RS [cold potatoes]is present, dietary fat is oxidised first into energy before it has a chance to be stored as body fat. This study suggests that including foods high in RS [cold potatoes] in your daily diet may help with weight management."

                          * I added the words [cold potatoes]

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                          • During my 10 days I ate a good percentage of my meals as either cold spuds or cold rice. I had good results with weight loss.

                            Maybe cold potatoe's with lashings of butter could be the answer. Might have to use thick sliced potatoe as sliced "bread".....
                            Last edited by fat belly frog; 12-19-2012, 11:20 PM.
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                            • I havent had any cramping. Gas, maybe a little but I had kraut sometimes also?

                              This week's tators, (russets) I boiled whole in their jackets. I was trying to go for the resistant starch thing. Thinking maybe I wouldn't lose as much in the water? Then I peeled before I ate them, but.... BUT... I warmed them up, so probably not the same effect.

                              marthat, I added a meat sauce for dinner also Just half a cup and then a 1/4 cup of low fat cottage cheese on top of.... My tator! It was almost like eating lasagna
                              65lbs gone and counting!!

                              Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                              • Originally posted by gopintos View Post
                                marthat, I added a meat sauce for dinner also Just half a cup and then a 1/4 cup of low fat cottage cheese on top of.... My tator! It was almost like eating lasagna
                                That sounds awesome! Should have thought of that! I was going for the no-spuds option with julienned zucchini "noodles". They were good. But weight is up half a lb this morning after a pretty well perfect day yesterday. No grains, no sugar, avoided the Christmas baking trap, low carb supper. So it was either the jarred "Vodka sauce" pasta sauce or the generous Parmesan cheese that caused the slight bloat. I did eat the second half of my breakfast baked potato cold yesterday afternoon. Go RS!!

                                So I'm uncertain whether I will stay with all potatoes today. I'm off work (influenza outbreak in today's nursing home - contractors can't go in), so have more eating options at home. But I also have an enormous amount of nice bone broth made on Tuesday that would mash nicely into potatoes. Think I just might...

                                Edit: Nope, bacon and eggs for B. :-)
                                Last edited by marthat; 12-20-2012, 07:42 AM.

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