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    I have been reading the about the benefits of fasting and am very interested in beginning intermittent fasting. The benefits are so great. I was wondering if it is save for older people to fast. Would it be safe for mother who is 77, recently diagnosed with Alzheimer's and my father who is 76 who has diabetes. They are otherwise healthy. I know that you cannot diagnose or make medical recommendations, but was wondering is there has been any research done with elderly people and fasting.

    Thank you,
    Sandyboots

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    Are they already primal/paleo? If not, I wouldn't recommended IF for them.

    Probably something you could discuss with a Dr on the Paleo Physicians network.
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    • #3
      I agree^^. I wouldn't take someone directly from the SAD to IFing, particularly not the diabetic person. Once on a solid low carb primal diet for a while, then maybe yes but only under MD supervision.

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      • #4
        I would say that if they have metabolic issues, then I wouldn't go to fasting right away without the right kind of doctors involved -- which would be those who know a lot about IFing.

        According to information on IFing that's out there -- the science of it that is which you can see on a BBC show called HOrizons (do a search on google or youtube) -- it doesn't matter how crap you eat, if you fast, then you'll be healthier in a number of ways. But, this is taking "normal" people who are overall healthy on the CW diets and adding IF, which is different than taking geriatric folks with metabolic issues into it without proper management/care.

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        • #5
          x2. Get them fat-adapted first or they'll eat their shoes when you walk out of the room.
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          • #6
            What there is a little on is the use of ketogenic diets with Alzheimers sufferers. Here's Dr. Mary Newport talking about that:

            The LLVLC Show (Episode 612): Dr. Mary Newport Updates Latest On Ketogenic Diet And Alzheimer’s Disease « Jimmy Moore's Livin' La Vida Low Carb Blog

            and see here:

            alzheimers ketogenic - PubMed - NCBI

            I'd have thought a low carb diet, such as the Primal Blueprint, with plenty of coconut oil would be an option to discuss with one's doctor for anyone in that position.

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            • #7
              Thank you

              Originally posted by Goosejuggler View Post
              Are they already primal/paleo? If not, I wouldn't recommended IF for them.

              Probably something you could discuss with a Dr on the Paleo Physicians network.
              I have gotten them to understand and accept most of the Primal philosophy, but they still eat cereal and bread on occasion. They are working on it.
              I'll try and find a Paleo Physician. Do I just Google Paleo Physicians network?
              Thanks,
              Sandyboots

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                I agree^^. I wouldn't take someone directly from the SAD to IFing, particularly not the diabetic person. Once on a solid low carb primal diet for a while, then maybe yes but only under MD supervision.
                Thank you.
                Sandyboots

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                  x2. Get them fat-adapted first or they'll eat their shoes when you walk out of the room.
                  I understand. My mom isn't quite fat-adapted, I do all of the cooking, but she always makes a piece of toast for breakfast and then asks for ice cream after dinner. I never buy any for her, I generally offer her some fruit or home made low-carb gingerbread.

                  Thank you,
                  Sandyboots

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                    I would say that if they have metabolic issues, then I wouldn't go to fasting right away without the right kind of doctors involved -- which would be those who know a lot about IFing.

                    According to information on IFing that's out there -- the science of it that is which you can see on a BBC show called HOrizons (do a search on google or youtube) -- it doesn't matter how crap you eat, if you fast, then you'll be healthier in a number of ways. But, this is taking "normal" people who are overall healthy on the CW diets and adding IF, which is different than taking geriatric folks with metabolic issues into it without proper management/care.
                    I tried to look up the documentery on Youtube, but it said that the program had been removed. I looked all over and found the BBC channel, but was unable to view the program. I did find an article about the program on the BBC site, I'll read it.

                    Thank you,
                    Sandyboots

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lewis View Post
                      What there is a little on is the use of ketogenic diets with Alzheimers sufferers. Here's Dr. Mary Newport talking about that:

                      The LLVLC Show (Episode 612): Dr. Mary Newport Updates Latest On Ketogenic Diet And Alzheimer’s Disease « Jimmy Moore's Livin' La Vida Low Carb Blog

                      and see here:

                      alzheimers ketogenic - PubMed - NCBI

                      I'd have thought a low carb diet, such as the Primal Blueprint, with plenty of coconut oil would be an option to discuss with one's doctor for anyone in that position.
                      Thank you,
                      I had started using coconut oil with my mom a while back, it seemed to be somewhat helpful, but she was not on the Primal way of eating yet. We stopped using the oil because we are an a limited income and it is expensive. I have just finished my MA in Early Education and have gotten a new job that starts in Dec. and will try using the oil again along with the primal diet. It is difficult to get her to understand and REMEMBER that it is not good for her to eat breads and ice cream, but I keep encouraging her and helping her to understand.

                      We have listened to Dr. Mary Newport in some of her talks and have started listening to the link you sent (I want to listen to it with my mom today) and will read the other article you posted.

                      Thank you
                      Sandyboots

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