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  • Has anyone else reaped the benefits of no showering as part of paleo?

    I only got into paleo and primal recently, but its really changed my life. I feel so much more energetic and excited day to day. I frequently find myself asking "What would Grok do?" to help me keep to the ancestral tenants. Grok wouldn't eat poison grains or put toxic chemicals on his skin. So recently I asked, would our ancestors wash every single day with copious amounts of water? The answer is no. Since we evolved over millions of years to not frequently wash, it only made sense for me to restrict showering to once a week, if not even less frequently.

    I think its made a big difference. People have pheromones because we are animals and pheramones act like sex signals to the opposite sex. Not only do I have more time to enjoy myself in the morning since no shower, but I've also noticed I've been getting a lot more looks from women.

    Is anyone else discovering the benefits of no shower? - Gaming, Food Reviews and Life in Singapore

  • #2
    Why no wash? What are You basing this on?
    Starting Date: Dec 18, 2010
    Starting Weight: 294 pounds
    Current Weight: 235 pounds
    Goal Weight: 195 pounds


    • #3
      Um, those looks you're getting may not be positive.


      • #4
        Showering daily is a very recent thing. When I was a child (I'm 53) we bathed once a week on a sunday night and washed our face and hands each morning and evening (and when dirty obviously).
        I don't think I saw or used a shower until I was 12 yers old! I still only shower twice a week and no-one complains about the smell, and my wife would tell me, believe me!
        It has a lot to do with the need to get us to consume things. I still remember the TV ads in the 70's and 80's which advertised products to use for your "daily" shower, as if we should all know you need to shower daily.
        I have several female friends who swear that their hair is much better for being washed once a week in cold water.
        Bottom line, if you don't have an odour problem, wash when you feel the need.


        • #5
          I skip a shower every so often, but not days on end. One thing I have noticed, especially since cutting out that last "two slices of bread per week" thing that I was allowing myself, is that my armpits almost never smell anymore.
          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine


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          • #6
            I think this would greatly depend on whether Grok lived close to a stream, river, pond, or ocean (highly likely). A daily dip with family would fall squarely in the 'play' and 'relaxation' categories.

            Also, see this: Encyclopedia Virginia: Hygiene Among Early Virginia Indians, Personal


            • #7
              I shower on gym days. Nobody needs to smell my stale post-workout sweat the next day.

              I take baths as a way to relax and get warm on winter days (plus it's nice quiet time to read a book and maybe listen to some good music), or I use our sauna and then rinse after because again, sweaty.

              Normal body smell doesn't bother me, but stale sweat is not an attractive scent.

              What you do for work is definitely going to affect it too. Someone who works in an office is likely going to need fewer showers than someone who works on a construction site.
              “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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              • #8
                In general, I agree.

                I have been a "wash when necessary" (and sometimes for the sheer emotional pleasure of it, like a romantic or calming bath) devotee for decades, ever since 18 (am now in my 40's), and I absolutely believe that reflexive daily showering (often with harsh chemical products) is harmful. I have raised my kids the same way so far, and we do. not. stink. Collectively, our noses are now very sensitive to stuff like the soap/laundry aisles at grocery stores, the perfume sections of drug stores, gawdawful places like Bath & Body Works or Yankee Candle and the like. In general, I think you are onto something - as a woman, I know that I get steamy fast when a good-smelling male crosses my path (and I don't mean a highly-perfumed male).

                As for water itself being a culprit, I am not so sure - I think it is more our modern soaps/cleansers/stuff. Grok would have gotten wet in the rain a lot, not to mention dealing with rivers, shores of oceans, lakes, snow...

                I think the balanced approach is not to restrict yourself to a time frame (like once per week or less), but just to do what you need to do when you need to do it, and with the gentlest (natural) product available that gets the job done.

                I'm glad you are getting such a health and lifestyle boost from Primal/paleo - I am too!
                I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC


                • #9
                  I shower daily. I poop, I pee, I sometimes pee when I'm running or sneezing. Good hygiene is a plus for a person with orifices with smelly things coming out. Newsflash: those smelly things aren't pheromones.

                  I don't wash my hair as often, though.
                  Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.


                  • #10
                    I've been chemical free for several months now. Haven't used soap in probably 6 months or more. Shampoo only once every few months, if I start getting dandruff. I use crystal stick deodorant, but I still rinse off with water in the shower. every day.


                    • #11
                      Washing in clean water does not get rid of your pheromones. It gets rid of slimy, funky, stinky gunk.

                      I bet that free-living human societies bathe(d) at every opportunity. Most people enjoy being clean and playing in the water. I bet most cultures who live by clean fresh water bathe daily or almost daily given the opportunity. Lots of agricultural societies were notorious for infrequent bathing, but then that may have been an artifact of clean water being a relatively valuable resource not to be wasted on bathing; when you have to pull your water out of a well by hand and carry it home in a bucket, you're not going to want to fill a bathtub very often. Similarly if you lived in a medieval city where the river was full of shit and garbage, bathing probably didn't sound so great either. Most of these places and people also had reputations for reeking like shit and having major problems with communicable disease as well.

                      What does mess up your natural smell is being unhealthy and also using chemical scents. Washing with clean water removes the smelly goop from your skin and lets your clean, natural scent through. Your skin is releasing that smell all the time and it can't be "washed off", only masked or altered.

                      For me, I shower daily, but I use as little soap as possible (usually none) and never use anything scented or perfumed. That way I get to smell naturally good and still be clean. Plus getting my hair wet in the morning avoids those bad hair days.
                      Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AMonkey View Post
                        Is anyone else discovering the benefits of no shower?
                        No! Mr. Grok probably didn’t comb his hair or was wearing sunglasses either...
                        "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                        - Schopenhauer


                        • #13
                          I are the availability of hot water as a privilege that quite a few people in the works do not enjoy, and I love my showers. I take 2-3 a day to feel clean (mostly because I work out). If you don't get snelly and the people around you don't complain then shower or not as you wish, but it's not exactly harmful to take a bath once in awhile. People in the Middle Ages and before modern times in Europe didn't bathe because they believed it was harmful and I'm pretty sure things were pretty stinky back then.
                          F 28/5'4/100 lbs

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                          • #14
                            I hate smelly people. Just because you've grown accustomed to your own stank doesn't mean the rest of us has. Good lord, take a f'n shower.


                            • #15
                              I prefer to shower when I am washing my hair, and the otherwise sponge bathe daily (wash cloth, clean water).

                              I came to doing this last year in the winter. It was cold, and the bathroom would be *freezing* after a hot shower. I would then get chilled, and it was not pleasant, as I couldn't seem to warm myself thereafter.

                              So, I took to putting some hot water on a wash cloth and wiping myself down, which got rid of all of the "yuck" on my skin (whatever that would be), and then putting on a nice layer of warmed coconut oil on my skin. I'd sit by our fire and let that soak in, and then get dressed. The whole deal took about 15 minutes, and I was clean and toasty warm all day long that way.

                              I moved to washing my hair about once a week. It didn't take long for my hair/scalp to adapt. I just had to brush it more vigorously for an extra day. So, I went from washing my hair every-other day to washing it every third (brushing vigorously on the third to remove excess oils). When I didn't have oily hair on the third day, i pushed off washing to the forth day (vigorous brushing), and then pushed off to the 5th, etc. Now I can go seven or even 8 days without washing my hair.

                              Since I now swim on Mondays with my son, I wash my hair there. They have a nice shower, and I use a stripping shampoo that gets the chemicals off of my skin and out of my hair. I then put on a nice layer of coconut oil after (for my son, too), and then the rest of the week I'm doing sponge baths.

                              It's quite nice.