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    Prehistoric 'Kennewick Man' Was All Beefcake : NPR

  • #2
    What a complete badass. You should repost this in Research.
    "Itís not about how strong you are, itís how well you can move with that strength."

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    • #3
      North america 9500 years ago. Natives don't have beards.
      In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
        North america 9500 years ago. Natives don't have beards.
        How do you know, were you there? What exactly is a native?

        There is not a lot of evidence to say who and who was not in America and exactly when. The Salutreans have been shown by DNA to have been on the East Coast about 15,000 years ago. There was nothing to stop other groups using the same route before them. There was also nothing to stop people of European type stock using the Bering Strait either.

        Unfortunately for me, I have no idea how far my lack of knowledge extends, although I am sure it is vast.
        Why use a sledge hammer to crack a nut when a steam roller is even more effective, and, is fun to drive.

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        • #5
          It's kind of like an episode of "Bones"

          I love how much they can tell from studying the bones.

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          • #6
            i have the weirdest boner right now
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
            lol

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nigel View Post
              How do you know, were you there? What exactly is a native?

              There is not a lot of evidence to say who and who was not in America and exactly when. The Salutreans have been shown by DNA to have been on the East Coast about 15,000 years ago. There was nothing to stop other groups using the same route before them. There was also nothing to stop people of European type stock using the Bering Strait either.

              Unfortunately for me, I have no idea how far my lack of knowledge extends, although I am sure it is vast.
              I'm just saying, without evidence of beards they shouldn't have included one on his face, given what we know of the indigenous population.
              In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
                North america 9500 years ago. Natives don't have beards.
                From the article~
                Also, Kennewick Man draws his ancestry from Asia and is not directly related to Native Americans, Owsley says.

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                • #9
                  Woops, missed that. Disregard.
                  In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                  • #10
                    Men generally grow facial hair post-puberty, and I don't think they had Gilette back then. I think it's a fair assumption that most men had beards prehistorically.
                    F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                    "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Damiana View Post
                      Men generally grow facial hair post-puberty, and I don't think they had Gilette back then. I think it's a fair assumption that most men had beards prehistorically.
                      I thought he had the same genes as modern native americans (which would mean no beard). I missed the part about him being asian.
                      In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                      • #12
                        Oh, stupid me. I never thought certain races do not have beards...I know my Asian guy friends have very little facial hair, I didn't know about Native Americans though, but I guess this explains why I've never seen one with a beard :P
                        F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                        "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                        • #13
                          Wait, asian = no beard as well? Then they still got the picture wrong! And yeah, the whole facial hair thing is why I'm sure I'm not part native. Which means, by necessity, that ancestor of mine with dark skin was part black. Since, you know, who else has dark skin in 1800s north america?
                          In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
                            Wait, asian = no beard as well? Then they still got the picture wrong! And yeah, the whole facial hair thing is why I'm sure I'm not part native. Which means, by necessity, that ancestor of mine with dark skin was part black. Since, you know, who else has dark skin in 1800s north america?
                            chinese man with beard - Google Search

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
                              North america 9500 years ago. Natives don't have beards.
                              Image doesn't show for me unless I remove the "?" and stray characters -- some kind of referrer? -- off the end of the URL thus:

                              Prehistoric 'Kennewick Man' Was All Beefcake : NPR

                              Lots of alternative reconstructions on Google images.

                              This one is very hirsute.

                              Some Native Americans did pull out their beard as it came, and most seem to have had little. How much people have across Asia seems to be variable.

                              I guess he might not look exactly like any modern people he is known to be related to. Polynesian DNA supposedly shows that they, or most of them at any rate, must have journeyed from around where Taiwan is now. Do they necessarily look very like people from Taiwan, though?

                              It has been said in the past that Kennewick Man's skull is rather similar in shape to that of the the Ainu (an indigenous people displaced from most of what's now Japan a long time ago). They're definitely bearded. That may be why he's been done with a beard. But maybe the artist was just thinking, "They didn't have shavers in those days." Maybe something a bit more wispy or nothing at all would have been better.

                              But let's forget his facial hair -- the rest of it is where the interest lies.

                              I was interested by his muscularity. He's not tall, but he's built like a professional sportsman.

                              The degree of inter-personal violence he seems to have encountered in life is also notable:

                              [he] got hit on the head a few times and was stabbed with a basalt rock point that got stuck in his hip
                              Last edited by Lewis; 10-14-2012, 08:51 AM.

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