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  • Kid Suspended from School After Mom Packs Kombucha in His Lunchbox

    Katherine Mangu-Ward|Oct. 12, 2012 2:58 pm
    A school in Newport Beach, California—where you'd think they would know better—suspended an elementary school kid for the beverage his mommy packed in his lunch bag.


    Kid Suspended from School After Mom Packs Kombucha in His Lunchbox - Hit & Run : Reason.com

  • #2
    Ridiculous. What a headache for that kid and his family and what a waste of resources. Don't they have any real work to do at that school?

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    • #3
      Kind of reminds me of how some police officers go into their job, thinking everyone is a criminal until proven otherwise.

      "A TEEN with a GLASS BOTTLE filled with BROWN STUFF? Off with his head!"

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      • #4
        Or the double-standard between the unionized teachers and the victimized students.

        City punishes teachers less than students for drug use | The Daily Caller

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        • #5
          Omg, it's CA - surely there's a lawyer to sue the school. There is approximately one lawyer per 1,000 residents in CA. I'd be ambulance chasing this case like a m-f-er. The pain, embarrassment, undue process (that's probably not the right terminology), the press. Damn, Grandma was right - the law could have been fun. Drat.
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          • #6
            Ummm.

            Please consider the source. The mom whose kid was involved contacted...the Healthy Home Economist about this? Really?

            Child Suspended from School for Kombucha in Lunchbox

            And really? Giving an elementary kid KOMBUCHA? To take to SCHOOL? If you think any school rep is going to be okay with even a SMALL amount of alcohol in a beverage, you're smoking something. And of course the kids are going to fixate on it, because alcohol is for adults and it's forbidden and forbidden things are COOL. Even if it's just a tiny amount.

            Here's the school's statement:
            Newport Mesa Unified School District: News

            I'm sure people over-reacted. They probably a) had never heard of kombucha and/or b) then found out it had alcohol in it (however minute) and freaked out and made some dumb decisions. But those decisions are now being reversed, as per the press release.
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            • #7
              It wasn't that long ago GT's Raw Organic Kombucha was taken off the shelves at your local health food store for its alcohol content. When it finally came back, it came back in two versions--one alive and with alcohol and the other dead and without. It doesn't surprise me at all that the kid was suspended. Blame the kid's moronic parent, not the school.

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              • #8
                I simply blame the method of "zero tolerance" BS.

                Here's the thing. If individuals just used discretion, this would be no big deal.

                The school and principle should have the discretion to do things quietly. Ie, confiscate the beverage, call the parents, ask a few questions about kombacha, recommend that the parent not send it again, and move onward.

                Simple, simple.

                Instead, you call the police, have a child interrogated without his parents present, suspend him from school for several days, only to be made an ass of publically for over-reacting and over-reaching your authority and therefore have to reverse your position.

                The whole thing is just stupid. If only administrators would use their brains, they wouldn't end up in these pickles.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                  Instead, you call the police, have a child interrogated without his parents present, suspend him from school for several days, only to be made an ass of publically for over-reacting and over-reaching your authority and therefore have to reverse your position.
                  According to the press release, the police present were already on-campus. And if it was a slow day, chances are they got called in because they were an available resource for the principal. Either that, or there was a policy in place saying that this was required procedure.

                  The school is committing to change. Not saying mistakes weren't made, but speaking personally, anytime I got in trouble at school for doing something against policy (and bringing an alcoholic beverage to school was definitely against policy), no one called my parents. It was me and the principal or the vice principal. Was it really an interrogation? Or is this a case of a parent overreacting in the name of wanting to make them and their kids out to be victims?

                  Because if I'm reading the press release right, the school district realizes they overreacted and are working to correct that.
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                  • #10
                    Police presence on campus makes little sense, and there would be no reason for them to intervene in this matter just because they were on campus.

                    If it was a required procedure, then that goes again to my issue with the policies and the lack of discretion on the part of the administrator (or, the lack of the ability to use his/her discretion).

                    From my own experience in school, I wouldn't speak to a principal or vice-principal without my parents present. I told them this from day 1 -- the first time it ever happened when I decided to defend myself physically against a bully who had been badgering me for months with no one stepping in (teachers, admin saw it happening). I told them to call my parents, and THEN we could have a chat.

                    I was 9.

                    I have told my son's school administrators the same. They are not to bring him into their office to 'talk' to him about anything -- negative or positive -- without my presence. The power assymettry and lack of fairness in that situation -- which I experienced throughout my schooling career -- is simply inappropriate, particularly when you have a child who isn't able to understand the broader context of his/her own choices and decisions, and will be guided by whatever the administrator thinks is correct, not what IS correct, and/or what is correct in that circumstance.

                    It is absolutely correct for a child to defend himself from bullying, and that includes bullying from administrators.

                    As such, my 4 yr old knows that if he's being called to the principal's office, he's to request that we be present any time a teacher or administrator needs to talk to him privately.

                    I don't play this bullshit school abuse stuff that everyone seems to happy to go along with. I didn't then. I'm not now.

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                    • #11
                      Also, I'm glad that the school district realizes that it was an over-reaction, and if they correct it, then great.

                      Thing is, if people use their discretion, they are less likely to have these ridiculous over reactions, problems solved.

                      And yes, being in the principal's office is an interrogation situation, based on the power dichotomy. Unless you felt that they were friends with you and you were equals when you went to the principal's office, fact is, it's no different than the power dichotomy of the situation when under arrest.

                      Effectively, you are virtually powerless in that situation, and unlike an arrest, you don't even have basic miranda rights.

                      And children, btw, do by law have miranda rights, so at the very least the parents should be notified.

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                      • #12
                        Jeez, when I was a kid, the teacher threatened to make us lick it up if we spit on the ground and if I were to back-talk and say I want my parents present when in the principal's office, I would have gotten a spanking. Oh, and P.S. the one time I did go to the principal's office I begged him and my teacher not to tell my parents. Thankfully they didn't.
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                        • #13
                          And if you think that's an ok way for a school to behave, then that's perpetuating institutionalized abuse.

                          I experienced a great deal of institutionalized abuse in school. What you describe is a great example, but other things include public humiliation, unjust punishment with no due process (or process to overturn punishment), and many other things that go against basic human rights.

                          And this was simply because I was *younger* than those in power. No less human, no less self sovereign, just *younger*.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by onalark View Post
                            Ummm.

                            Please consider the source. The mom whose kid was involved contacted...the Healthy Home Economist about this? Really?

                            Child Suspended from School for Kombucha in Lunchbox

                            And really? Giving an elementary kid KOMBUCHA? To take to SCHOOL? If you think any school rep is going to be okay with even a SMALL amount of alcohol in a beverage, you're smoking something. And of course the kids are going to fixate on it, because alcohol is for adults and it's forbidden and forbidden things are COOL. Even if it's just a tiny amount.

                            Here's the school's statement:
                            Newport Mesa Unified School District: News

                            I'm sure people over-reacted. They probably a) had never heard of kombucha and/or b) then found out it had alcohol in it (however minute) and freaked out and made some dumb decisions. But those decisions are now being reversed, as per the press release.
                            Um, tons of kids in Portland drink kombucha everyday and take it to school. It's in vending machines.

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                            • #15
                              fuck the police
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