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  • #46
    Ah, well, if it's your A1C I bet it will be improved, as well as your triglycerides. Your blood pressure has probably started to drop as well.

    Some people on very low carbohydrate diets might actually see A1C go up over time, however, but that's a physiological response that doctors don't understand very well and can be fixed without having to go back to eating processed food, bread and pastries.

    It's the LDL and the HDL that are less straightforward and nowadays it seems more and more research shows that they really don't know what those numbers mean or whether they really are linked to the food you eat or whether you're going to have a heart attack.
    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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    • #47
      PrimalPapa, I don't know if you've read my journal where I detailed my husbands experiences with Primal and bloodwork so I will update you here.
      We started eating this way in May of 2011. It took us a little bit of time to get the junk out of our menu plan but shortly after we did, he had an appointment with the cardiologist for bloodwork. Seven years ago he had a heart attack due to high cholesterol and arterial plaque. After a few months of eating things cooked in butter, eating fatty meats and doing what the cardiologists tell you to avoid he was so sure that his cholesterol levels would come back worse than before. When the results came back they had IMPROVED. Fast forward a year. Another appointment with the cardiologist, this time for a nuclear test to show the heart a work and at rest plus more blood work. Not only did the blood work come back better than before, but the cardiologist was happily surprised to find that his arteries are now completely normal.
      Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by honeybuns View Post
        PrimalPapa, I don't know if you've read my journal where I detailed my husbands experiences with Primal and bloodwork so I will update you here.
        We started eating this way in May of 2011. It took us a little bit of time to get the junk out of our menu plan but shortly after we did, he had an appointment with the cardiologist for bloodwork. Seven years ago he had a heart attack due to high cholesterol and arterial plaque. After a few months of eating things cooked in butter, eating fatty meats and doing what the cardiologists tell you to avoid he was so sure that his cholesterol levels would come back worse than before. When the results came back they had IMPROVED. Fast forward a year. Another appointment with the cardiologist, this time for a nuclear test to show the heart a work and at rest plus more blood work. Not only did the blood work come back better than before, but the cardiologist was happily surprised to find that his arteries are now completely normal.
        That's awsome Honeybuns
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        Originally posted by tfarny
        If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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        • #49
          Nearly three years primal, and I don't ever intend to "go back." My life and health have changed so much, it has made me rethink priorities in my life and changed me for the better in many ways. I will say though, that after doing some experimentation on myself I notice no benefit to cutting dairy (for me), and now that I'm at a great weight and general health I see little benefit to low carbing on purpose, or to worrying about macros. Life is definitely better with some dairy in it and some white potatoes. I'm sure that the Paleo Jesus types will ban me from their circle of coolness now, but I'm not too interested in that conversation any more.
          If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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          • #50
            Originally posted by tfarny View Post
            I'm sure that the Paleo Jesus types will ban me from their circle of coolness now, but I'm not too interested in that conversation any more.
            Hells yeah.
            “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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            • #51
              Primal for over 2 1/2 years, hubby was on board, albeit slowly at first, within the first month or two. I don't ever seeing returning back to grains and legumes. I mean why? When there's lovely meat, amazing produce, and tasty fat?

              I had my last medical at about 9 months primal. Cholesterol numbers had all been "very good" before, and this time were even better. Higher total cholesterol, but huge increase in HDL and decrease in trigs (alas, no VAP test,, so although LDL was a bit up, I have not doubt it was the good stuff). My doc was impressed. Hubby had been on statins, due to slightly elevated lipid panel and family history (mom had a heart attack in her 50s). Within a year of decreasing statin dosages for improved labwork, he has now been off statins for well over a year, and all looks great. He's due for repeat labwork soon, and my next medical is coming up, which I expect to be just as good as last time.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by lidskatherin
                I hope no one minds me putting this here




                "Depends how cold it is..."
                "That's what she said"
                "Said the actress to the bishop..."
                If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

                Originally posted by tfarny
                If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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                • #53
                  Primal as of the week before Christmas 2011(so just over 10 months), that's when I was diagnosed with a debilitating chronic brain disorder.
                  One that generally rules peoples lives for YEARS.
                  Only a few months ago the doctors told me I was just a step away from brain surgery for shunt placement and I was making out wills, advanced directives, and making sure that plans were in order so that my husband wouldn't have to decide what to do for a burial if it came to that. (I'm 38 yrs old.)
                  I've just about whipped it...

                  And in that time I've also nearly put to rest a chronic pain disease I've been living with, and that has been whipping my ass, since 1997.
                  I've had 10 surgeries for it...

                  And lost 30lbs.
                  Incidentially... because that certainly was not my main focus here!
                  But I'm not done with that yet either.

                  Would I ever quit this because of some 'number' a doctor showed me on a piece of paper...
                  Oh HELL no!
                  Do you have any idea how many times they have looked me in the eye, given it their best shot and been completely f*king WRONG?!
                  Seriously........ just plain 100% WRONG.

                  Sorry.
                  I'm a lifer.
                  Last edited by cori93437; 10-09-2012, 11:24 PM.
                  “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                  ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                  And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                  • #54
                    Since March. I don't know if I'll stay grain-free forever, but I am definitely never eating processed crap again.
                    F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                    "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                    • #55
                      Since May... and I am absolutely never going back to the SAD diet. I would definitely not do so based on my Dr.'s recommendation! I know my body better than she does.

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                      • #56
                        Since May 1, 2012. Haven't felt this great in ages! Definitely this way for life. Occasional non-primal splurges here and there (ie: for Canadian Thanksgiving, I had a bun and pumpkin pie with sweetened whipped cream).

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                        • #57
                          Since late 2009, so about three years. My family made our way here through dropping foods that made us feel bad, and only later (through recipe searches) dound our way to primal. No, no way we'd ever start eating the way we did before -- we feel too much better now. Actually, we did a 90 day VLC this summer to help my husband deal with a systemic fungal infection -- and we find that we really don't want to go back to the high strach vegetables at everuy meal we ate a few years ago...again, we feel far too much better with fewer carbs.

                          That said, on holidays, we do bake pseudo-primal treats like pies (with walnut crust) and cookies, and that probably won;t stop while we have children in our home. (And I'm the biggest kid of all.)
                          Misti
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                          Grain Free since 2009, WP from 2005
                          ~100% primal (because anything less makes me very sick)
                          Goal: hike across Sweden with my grandchildren when I retire in a few years

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                          • #58
                            Another lifer here....went Primal in January 2012...there is absolutley no way I could back to SAD, even when I take a weekend off I start to get depressed and twitchy feeling, not to mention what crap food does to my stomach. I feel like I have finally healed my gut (which has been messed up my entire life) got my depression under control (most of the time) and I just look and feel so much better. And really it just makes sense, we come from mother earth, we will return to mother earth, the resources she provides for us are just obviously (IMO) what we are supposed to eat, what we thrive on, what keeps us healthy and connected. The End, that is all...

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                            • #59
                              june of 2011. i honestly feel, at this point, like "go back to what?" i can't imagine being more satisfied with the foods i eat, or missing grains and vegetable oil. i didn't exactly come here from SAD though, so maybe it's easier.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
                                That seems kind of silly to me. These will be close to my baseline numbers, I was talking to a doctor who specializes in blood, and he said that it takes 10 weeks to 12 weeks ( of a new way of eating ) to get a good feel for what's in your blood. So, I had my numbers done early in the year, and all were pretty good except my A1C. The next time I will have my blood work done is in early 2013. I plan to think of those as my baseline numbers after eating primaly for about 16 weeks.
                                I think the point she's making is that your numbers can get WORSE while you're losing weight because of the extra fat in your bloodstream (that you're burning because you've released it from your fat cells)... or at least that's how I understand it . This is why there isn't much point in getting numbers done WHILE you're in the process of losing weight. Once the weight has gone and you're stabilised, your blood should also stabilise and you'll get a more accurate reading.

                                I'd hate for someone to start going really well on primal, only to quit because their numbers looked bad just because they were in the process of losing weight!! Honestly, if you're set on getting your blood checked, then go for it... but don't quit primal right away, no matter what the numbers say!

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