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  • #31
    Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
    I don't really get this. Are you not enjoying the changes you've made? If that's the case, maybe you've jumped in too fast, or bought into a definition of primal that's too restrictive. There's a lot of primal as religion in this forum and it can be overwhelming to someone who's finding their way.

    I think it is pretty simple. If my blood work shows poor results then I won't stay on primal. My thoughts have nothing to do with what others think about how they look at primal. I have read some books, and read this site, and others, and i have formed my opinions, just like everybody else does for themselves.
    Start Date 9.24.12
    Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
    CW - 271 pounds
    First Goal - 255 by 2013
    Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
    Other Goal - to get off some medications
    Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
    NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

    Your Dad is So Fat

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    • #32
      Almost 9 months.

      Absolutely, I will eat this way for the rest of my life.

      No numbers back from my doctor will make me include rancid oils, processed foods, excess sugars, or even grains and legumes.
      Female, age 51, 5' 9"
      SW - 183 (Jan 22, 2012), CW - 159, GW - healthy.

      Met my 2012 goals by losing 24 pounds.
      2013 goals are to get fit and strong!

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      • #33
        A year for me. And yeah, as long as I think that this is the healthy life, why wouldn't I continue it?
        Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

        Griff's cholesterol primer
        5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
        Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
        TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
        bloodorchid is always right

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
          I think it is pretty simple. If my blood work shows poor results then I won't stay on primal. My thoughts have nothing to do with what others think about how they look at primal. I have read some books, and read this site, and others, and i have formed my opinions, just like everybody else does for themselves.
          Well, of course, everyone will make the choices they think are in their best interests. But I don't see primal as simple. Some people prefer something like 70% fat/10% carb. I am closer to 40% fat/30% carb. They are both primal, but maybe not equally healthy for every person. What they have in common is stepping away from grains and processed foods. Now, if you question the value of that, it would be hard to maintain in any circumstances.
          50yo, 5'3"
          SW-195
          CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
          GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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          • #35
            I have been eating primal since August, doing sleep and exercise for a little less time. I think I am in this for the long haul with short forays into sourdough bread every so often. (Most certainly the 80/20.)

            Since going primal I no longer have afternoon shaky need to eat Triscuit time. My hip that has hurt for the past 7 years hasn't hurt. I am sleeping better. The "bible bump" I had on my wrist is gone. I hate paying money for bigger clothes each year, I would rather wear out what I have first and buy new things the same size. I have 4 family members (grandparents, aunt and brother) who have/had type II diabetes. Not letting that happen. I am not hungry, yet have lost weight - this is something new compared to other diets. I like the science that supports this.

            For me, the primal meals are pretty easy to make as I made all my food from scratch before. I just add more veges and take out the pasta, rice and grains. Stir fries, curries, etc are pretty easy and easy to do primal. I miss grinding my own flour and making my own bread, but I feel so much better, and have so few cravings now.

            I tried some "Krave" cereal at the store the other day as a sample. It seemed sweeter than sugar and I joked with my kids that it was Calving and Hobbes' Sugar Coats Sugar Bomb Cereal. I certainly do not "krave" it anymore. Even my kids needed to get a drink of water after that one!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
              Owly, the sleep is the big issue. I have frequent insomnia, and even when I don't, between kids getting up for school, wife heading out to work, and two dogs, well, sleep is not easy to get in big amounts. I worked 19 years on the 3Pm - 11PM shift, and I was going to bed at 2 - 3AM... I haven't had that job in 3 years, and I still can't usually fall asleep until that time.... and the house gets up at 6AM....
              I live with a man like that--he worked nights for many years and still tends to be a night owl when left to himself. I'm an insomniac on the other end of the night (early waking, rather than having trouble falling asleep) so the early nights are good for me since I tend to wake early regardless, but he's definitely had trouble adjusting to earlier sleep times. I'm going to put f.lux on his computer to see if that helps him at all, and he's also trying to cut down on the lighting in the evenings, so maybe that will make a difference. He starts work at 6:00am these days, so the late bedtimes really take their toll if he isn't careful.
              “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

              Owly's Journal

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              • #37
                2 1/2 years and never looking back to CW. I've never felt and looked better in all my 46 years. More energy, better outlook on life, great food(although I have an occasional treat), and the support from the people around here has been fantastic...What more is there!!!!!
                Free your mind, and your Grok will follow!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
                  I think it is pretty simple. If my blood work shows poor results then I won't stay on primal. My thoughts have nothing to do with what others think about how they look at primal. I have read some books, and read this site, and others, and i have formed my opinions, just like everybody else does for themselves.
                  I think it's a mistake to base your decision on something like blood work. For starters, if you're still losing weight by then, your blood work may not look so good (a lot of people get elevated cholesterol when they're still losing weight on primal). Also, shouldn't it be more about how you feel/function, than some numbers? Obviously if you are following primal and feel like crap, then you might have a reason to go off it... but if you're feeling fantastic, losing weight etc. why would you quit, even if your "numbers" are bad?

                  I see from another post you are worried about your insomnia. Do you feel primal has exacerbated this problem? If so, I can understand why this would be a problem for you. However, it may be something you can easily address without going off primal, too. To be honest, I've found it harder to sleep lately than I usually do... even last night I was still awake at midnight despite getting up at 5.35 for CrossFit (AND daylight savings only just started here on Sunday, so it was more like 4.35am). I do wonder what I can do to address this (I've read some people say that they need more carbs or they get insomnia).

                  Still, this won't get me to quit primal, at all! It's just something I have to figure out how to deal with if it continues to be a problem, and I'm sure there are answers to it that don't involve me going back to CW eating.

                  I just don't see any other benefits AT ALL to going back to what I was doing before, which left me overweight and unmotivated. I haven't a frigging clue about bloodwork, as I've never in my life had bloodwork done, and I don't plan to start now . I don't want some doctor casting judgement on my life because I don't do the same thing that 95% of the population do.

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                  • #39
                    Started eating strict paleo back in 2008, then naturally gravitated towards a more primal diet for a while before finding Marks blog and realising that it just all made absolute sense. Since then I haven't looked back
                    If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

                    Originally posted by tfarny
                    If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
                      I think it is pretty simple. If my blood work shows poor results then I won't stay on primal. My thoughts have nothing to do with what others think about how they look at primal. I have read some books, and read this site, and others, and i have formed my opinions, just like everybody else does for themselves.
                      I think you should do some research on those blood numbers. They are artificial. They don't show what doctors think they show. They are usually misinterpreted as well as mis-calculated.

                      I feel so incredibly healthy now that even if my cholesterol was 400 I wouldn't change anything. You can't tell me that to look like these deflated, brain-fogged, dried up, tired-looking old men on statins is healthier than feeling fully alive with a bad cholesterol number. I don't know if I have high cholesterol, but if I did, there's no way I'd want to be like these old men I know. They can't think, they look terrible, they suffer depression and confusion and can't keep up with fast-moving conversation, they look tired and like they've already had the heart-attack they are trying to avoid.
                      Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                      • #41
                        Aside from the occasional holiday I'll likely keep eating this way. At Christmas though I WILL pig out on mocha cakes, pork pies and egg nog until I collapse with a fever. Oh, chocolate too.
                        But yeah holidays are the exception for me. And even then the amount of meat I end up eating usually saves me from a complete GI fukushima.
                        In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                        • #42
                          Primal Papa, when are you going to have your blood work done? I read somewhere that you should wait until you're near your goal weight to have your blood work done. My husband had his blood checked earlier and he was a little disappointed that his numbers weren't better. But he's been overweight pretty much all his adult life (he recently moved out of the obese category) and I think it takes time for the changes to show up in the blood work.

                          I had insomnia for years and it finally improved with primal eating and the addition of magnesium. I've been eating primally for about 2 1/2 yrs. This is how I eat now; I have no intention to going back to eating grains I honestly don't miss them. My overall health is so much better, I had no idea that my health could be better, I thought my little aches and pains, insomnia weight gain, headaches were all just part of getting older. Not so!
                          Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
                            Owly, the sleep is the big issue. I have frequent insomnia, and even when I don't, between kids getting up for school, wife heading out to work, and two dogs, well, sleep is not easy to get in big amounts. I worked 19 years on the 3Pm - 11PM shift, and I was going to bed at 2 - 3AM... I haven't had that job in 3 years, and I still can't usually fall asleep until that time.... and the house gets up at 6AM....
                            My parents switched to primal (and they aren't exactly the strictest adherents, but it's still an improvement) early last year when they visited for a couple of weeks. My mum (in her early 60's) has suffered from insomnia for decades, usually getting to sleep ok but waking early and then unable to get back to sleep. She found that after cutting grains for a couple of months this improved dramatically, and when she slips off the wagon and has too much cake / bread or to often, her sleep deteriorates again.

                            I echo what others have said about making your choice to stick with primal based on a blood test, for several of reasons:

                            1. A blood test is a snapshot in time, if you're talking about a cholesterol test (sorry, just skimming ) then results can vary quite a bit from day to day, let alone month to month.

                            2. Cholesterol tests are often misinterpreted by doctors who just look at the total cholesterol levels, or triglyceride levels (which can easily be incorrect for people who eat this way due to the formula commonly used to calculate trigs from HDL & LDL giving false readings when HDL levels are under 100 (I think, may be lower).

                            3. Cholesteorl tests don't mean a great deal in and of themselves. They are but one dipstick indicator to overall health / cardiovascular heart disease risk that are only really relevant if you have a number of other risk factors (High blood cholesterol, diabetes & prediabetes, smoking, lack of physical activity, poor diet, high stress, family history of heart disease).

                            4. Be patient.You've had your whole life to get to where you're body's in it's current state, you're not going to fix that in 2 weeks, or even 2 months! It could take a while, but you should slowly but surely see, or at least feel the difference. Just stick with it, exactly as Mark has prescribed in the book (ignore 90% of what's said on the forum as they are often made by people who haven't even read the book, or the freely available info here. Or if they have, they are experimenting with any number of hacks or tweaks) for a couple of months and then judge how you feel, look and perform in your chosen physical activities.

                            5. If you're following all of the principles of the primal blueprint (e.g. being active, reducing/managing stress, eating primally, etc. basically reducing or mitigating a number of the other risk factors) and you don't feel any better, or feel worse (other than after the first couple of weeks of adjustment from burning sugar to burning fat, and any possible withdrawal sypmtoms from cutting out grains & process sugars etc.) then I'd think again. If you're feeling good, maybe lost some body fat (if needed/desired) then why would you stop just because a printout has a number on it that you or your doctor doesn't like? (bearing point 3 in mind).

                            Of course, you could just ignore all of this. After all I'm just some guy on the internet

                            Afterthought: Also, if it is blood lipids/cholestorl tests that you're referring to, then as Urban Forager alludes to, if you are overweight and find that being primal for a month or two helps you lose weight, the result of that will be that your body releases cholesterol from your dimishing fat cells back into your blood stream, which will inflate the scores on your test. However, once your weight stabilises you should find your readings are better.
                            Last edited by Misabi; 10-08-2012, 09:19 PM.
                            If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

                            Originally posted by tfarny
                            If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
                              Primal Papa, when are you going to have your blood work done? I read somewhere that you should wait until you're near your goal weight to have your blood work done. ...

                              That seems kind of silly to me. These will be close to my baseline numbers, I was talking to a doctor who specializes in blood, and he said that it takes 10 weeks to 12 weeks ( of a new way of eating ) to get a good feel for what's in your blood. So, I had my numbers done early in the year, and all were pretty good except my A1C. The next time I will have my blood work done is in early 2013. I plan to think of those as my baseline numbers after eating primaly for about 16 weeks.
                              Last edited by Primal Papa; 10-09-2012, 04:00 AM.
                              Start Date 9.24.12
                              Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
                              CW - 271 pounds
                              First Goal - 255 by 2013
                              Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
                              Other Goal - to get off some medications
                              Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
                              NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

                              Your Dad is So Fat

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                                I think you should do some research on those blood numbers. They are artificial. They don't show what doctors think they show. They are usually misinterpreted as well as mis-calculated..
                                + 1 on this before I say anything else. I would be very very careful to judge my health by numbers and not how I feel.

                                I have been loosely primal since last year and VLC primal since April (except one cheat a week when I have about 150-250 g of mostly primal carbs). I have non-primal food ocassionally but I hardly ever crave it. Primal sweets give me enough "cheating" potential

                                Before going primal it took me about a year to get myself convinced and read all the possible books on paleo/primal to make me a firm believer. It wasn't about weightloss but easy maintenance really - I lost about 20 kgs over two years ago by clean diet and calorie counting but I was looking for some lifestyle approach that would be sustainable for life and would sort out a lot of other little problems I had - insulin resistance, PCOS, mood swings, cravings, inflammation etc. Now, having had a proper go at it, I believe it is my choice for life. The only thing I can see stopping me is total lack of money/sources for real food and I will make sure that doesn't happen. Let's face it - any healthy diet is not cheap or available to everyone. It's only the worst bit of CW that's really cheap
                                At the same time my lab numbers are better than ever (better than they were after clean conventional diet and weightloss), trigs are non-existant, HDL is much higher than LDL, totals low and the correlations ideal. So I am happy - even with numbers

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