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  • #31
    Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
    Ok, yeah...

    You DID slap him, right?
    Ha ha! If I slapped everyone like him, they would take me away to the asylum. There aren't that many people out here so you sort of have to do your best with what you get.

    Seriously, though, I totally see that this generation is not going to live as long as the last. And I believe when the time comes that these parents want grandkids, there is going to be a lot of infertility to deal with.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by JayGee View Post
      *snip*

      No wonder their children never pick up a book....
      I read something somewhere (sorry I can't be more specific) that said it doesn't matter how much you make kids read, or even how much you read to them. If you want them to read, they have to see you doing it. Of course, this doesn't always work, as three of us four kids are avid readers, and my mom, but not my brother at all.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by jfreaksho View Post
        I read something somewhere (sorry I can't be more specific) that said it doesn't matter how much you make kids read, or even how much you read to them. If you want them to read, they have to see you doing it. Of course, this doesn't always work, as three of us four kids are avid readers, and my mom, but not my brother at all.
        I have to say, I was totally proud when I went on my tattooed 21-year-old's Facebook page and saw he was a C.S. Lewis fan.

        All those years of reading worked!
        Durp.

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        • #34
          Growing up, my parents had firm, hard rules with tv, etc. TV didn't come on in the morning at ALL (quickest way to get in trouble, matter of fact.) TV only came on after dinner, so Mom and Dad could watch the news and maybe a family show or something. If we didn't have homework (I rarely did, thanks to being at school 1.5 hrs before it starts and 2 hrs after it ended because I was on my parents' commute) then we got kicked outside to play, told to play quietly in the bedroom, or otherwise left to our own quiet devices. I devoured most of the books in the house (no small feat with that many bookshelves.) My mom caught me reading Clan of the Cave Bear in 5th grade and from then on, if it was on specific shelves, I had to ask before I read it, in case of adult scenes. I was reading Stephen King in 3rd grade, stumbling my way through The Talisman and The Gunslinger.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by jfreaksho View Post
            I read something somewhere (sorry I can't be more specific) that said it doesn't matter how much you make kids read, or even how much you read to them. If you want them to read, they have to see you doing it. Of course, this doesn't always work, as three of us four kids are avid readers, and my mom, but not my brother at all.
            This. Exactly. My mom and dad were avid readers and read to us as we were growing up. Four of the five of us are now also avid readers. The other one - the middle child - doesn't read books as a general rule. She will occasionally, but it takes her a while to get through it. She just doesn't like to sit and read. She is, howevr, an amazing graphic designer and supports herself as a free lance web designer, etc. She's much more happy doing stuff like that and being around big groups of people than sitting with her nose buried in a book. Me, I'll take the book and no people any day.

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            • #36
              My wee boy is 3 years old, and me reading is a trigger for him to go get a book, bring it over to me, with "stop reading that book dad, and read this book to me". I've created a monster.
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              • #37
                During the week, the only TV my kids were allowed to watch was about a half-hour when they first got home from school, before I got home from work. They were allowed to stay up an extra half hour before bed IF they were reading. All rules were strictly enforced, and they had to do push-ups (even in public) if they misbehaved. (I was in the Army... )

                After my son finished BUD/S training (Navy SEAL), he thanked me for being a mean mom! And both my girls have 4.0 GPAs in college.

                Being a parent is not for the weak-willed, but if you discipline consistently, it's well worth it! All three of my adult kids are terrific people!

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                • #38
                  Some of these are pretty yikes-worthy! I have one to add.

                  I was once at a small family gathering of my ex boyfriend. His cousin, her husband, and their 3 year old son were there. Worst parents ever. They gave him coke to drink... In an empty glass BEER BOTTLE! And he was cussing up a storm as he walked around swigging from his old bud light bottle. They thought it was hilarious that he was drinking from a beer bottle and cussing (he was also filthy). Needless to say, I was horrified. :O Thank goodness I never married into that family!!
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jaye View Post
                    Ha ha! If I slapped everyone like him, they would take me away to the asylum. There aren't that many people out here so you sort of have to do your best with what you get.

                    Seriously, though, I totally see that this generation is not going to live as long as the last. And I believe when the time comes that these parents want grandkids, there is going to be a lot of infertility to deal with.
                    Agreed. My grandparents are 85 both and still healthy.

                    But I doubt much of my generation will see that age unless they want to do it strapped to the machines modern medical since has designed to keep them furiously clinging to life.

                    Infertility though... Frankly with our population skyrocketing, maybe we could use a bit of a slowdown.
                    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by aix_sponsa View Post
                      Some of these are pretty yikes-worthy! I have one to add.

                      I was once at a small family gathering of my ex boyfriend. His cousin, her husband, and their 3 year old son were there. Worst parents ever. They gave him coke to drink... In an empty glass BEER BOTTLE! And he was cussing up a storm as he walked around swigging from his old bud light bottle. They thought it was hilarious that he was drinking from a beer bottle and cussing (he was also filthy). Needless to say, I was horrified. :O Thank goodness I never married into that family!!
                      Wow, you missed that one by a hair!

                      I don't want to sound rude, but what, exactly, did you see in him?
                      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                        Wow, you missed that one by a hair!

                        I don't want to sound rude, but what, exactly, did you see in him?
                        He was more of a companion-type boyfriend from high school than a love-type boyfriend. I fortunately broke up with him and now am married to a wonderful guy!
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by aix_sponsa View Post
                          He was more of a companion-type boyfriend from high school than a love-type boyfriend. I fortunately broke up with him and now am married to a wonderful guy!
                          Glad to hear you turned that one around fir the better.
                          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                          • #43
                            We don't own a tv, but we do have computers which we use for work, movies, and downloading. We do let DS watch some tv (some cartoons now and again, some movies, and some cooking shows which he likes. . . he also likes to cook, so. . .). But, it's probably about 5 hrs tops *per week* and nearly always on the weekends or over school holidays when DH and I need to get some work done.

                            He spends most of his time running, playing legos, and "reading." (He doesn't read yet, but he loves ot look at his books, and he's starting to identify letters and put together phonics on his own. Pretty cool.). He also sings constantly.

                            Anyway, being without a TV is great.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                              My wee boy is 3 years old, and me reading is a trigger for him to go get a book, bring it over to me, with "stop reading that book dad, and read this book to me". I've created a monster.
                              This is our son, too. DH and I are both readers. I spent most of the first year nursing DS (i was the pacifier! lol), and I read pretty much the whole year. We still read A LOT, and when we are working on the computers (or reading, since we both kindle with them), DS grabs his library books and brings them over.

                              BUT, we had to contain reading time. When he was 2, he wanted us to read to him, constantly, and when you get through your second hour of 10 minute books, you are loosing your mind. So, our parenting coach recommended that we contain the time that we read allowed to him to 30 minute blocks (we do 3 a day currently -- am, afternoon, and bedtime), and then he's welcome to 'read to himself' any time in between. he usually spends a good 30-45 in the morning and in the evening "reading" on his own.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                                This is our son, too. DH and I are both readers. I spent most of the first year nursing DS (i was the pacifier! lol), and I read pretty much the whole year. We still read A LOT, and when we are working on the computers (or reading, since we both kindle with them), DS grabs his library books and brings them over.

                                BUT, we had to contain reading time. When he was 2, he wanted us to read to him, constantly, and when you get through your second hour of 10 minute books, you are loosing your mind. So, our parenting coach recommended that we contain the time that we read allowed to him to 30 minute blocks (we do 3 a day currently -- am, afternoon, and bedtime), and then he's welcome to 'read to himself' any time in between. he usually spends a good 30-45 in the morning and in the evening "reading" on his own.
                                Years ago when son was small I fixed him of this one... and the result was wonderful for us both IMO.
                                I would read him 2-3 of his books... and them it was time to read a "Mommy" book for a little while.
                                A "Mommy " book meant classic literature.
                                If you choose really nice prose... or go straight for the classical poetry.

                                Son came to really enjoy this time. And would sometimes even go get a "Mommy book" so he could just sit and listen for a while.
                                I never felt that it was idle time... he was certainly listening and thinking... I took a bit of extra time to explain the different words that might be used such as hart for deer... and he would remember those things and comment at times.
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