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  • #16
    I agree that it's a work in progress... But once the honeymoon was over I did a whole30, then a 2 wk relaxed session, another whole30, added in some dairy when it was over (and some ice cream), lasted two wks, and back to another whole30.

    I'm trying to figure out what works best for me in regards to how strict I am. Plus, I like seeing how my body reacts when I try and add back terrible foods. It solidifies how much I love the paleo lifestyle and how it makes me feel!


    • #17
      I had a good 6-month honeymoon on paleo, where I loved my results. Then, I started to mourn the loss of all the treats my family still enjoyed, so I tried to paleo-ize those goodies, which still led to sugar and carb cravings, which led to binges, which resulted in gaining all the weight back that I had lost....soooo, I'm back to the dating stage after a messy divorce, and I think me and paleo are going to get back together again. SAD will kill me; he's the evil bad boy boyfriend I've got to dump for good.


      • #18
        Originally posted by Uncephalized View Post
        This. Except for me it's that I'm still looking for a way to eat and exercise that will get and keep me roughly where I want to be without constant counting and obsessing.

        So I'm (a little) fat again, but I'm happy, so whatever. I'm focusing on functional fitness and giving my body everything it needs. Also working on reducing negative stress by drastically changing and simplifying our living conditions (quitting 9 to 5 and going nomadic, working on a small business with my wife and living on the road for a while, in pursuit of adventure!), which I think will make a big positive difference.

        And playing my ukulele makes me happy, too.
        Can I borrow your life, but sub ukulele with piano? Small business and living on the road is exactly what I dream of doing, but $$ will not allow it anytime soon.
        Depression Lies


        • #19
          Oh, I would especially say I never had a honeymoon period because the 15 lbs I lost took me about 6 months, and many of the people around here would have lost that weight in the first month. Then again, that is all I "had" to lose to get to where I am now. It never bothered me that I didn't have overnight success like some people seem to, I'm just happy to have kept the unwanted fat off and gained a move positive body image.
          Depression Lies


          • #20
            I'm not sure whether I never had a "honeymoon" period or whether I'm still (after almost 4 years) still in it. Maybe the key is that although I have lost weight, that was never the point for me. I gradually made my way to "Primal" and I stay primal because when I don't, I feel sick.

            My family went grain free when my husband and son were diagnosed with celiac -- SCD was the plan, but we felt so maazing when we dropped the grains that we can't imagine going back, whether we still need "healing" or not. My blood sugar responded almost immediately, and I went off all diabetes medication and insulin after about two years.

            Then we went VLC when my husband needed to spend three months treating a systemic fungal infection -- but again, we feel so amazing that while we plan to have minor splurges on Sundays and treat feast days every six weeks a Feast days, with desserts *and* starchy vegetables in the same day, we plan to stay VLC six days per week just to stay feeling as healthy and energetic as we have been these last three months.

            (Well, OK, *I* have been feeling amazing - - my honey has been taking "draino pills" (not really, it's a collection of fungicides) to kill off his systemic "pet" and has felt like crap until this week when he gots the benefits of VLC without the medication induced yucks.)

            I don't own a scales, and I don't look at the doctor's office, so I am not sure how much weight I have lost nor am I aware if I have "stalls" ... they aren't relevent to me. But I have gone from an old lady who could barely walk because of joint pain and arthritis to someone who can crack out 2.5 miles and be looking to do it again tomorrow! I never thought I'd see the day - -and to me, *that* is relevent.

            I feel so good that my next step is PBF - - I'm walking, and now I need to add sprints and LHT.
            Grain Free since 2009, WP from 2005
            ~100% primal (because anything less makes me very sick)
            Goal: hike across Sweden with my grandchildren when I retire in a few years


            • #21
              Every now and then something I try works and I end up surprising myself again at how much more healthy and vital I can feel. So I guess the honeymoon isn't over yet.
              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.


              • #22
                I never really had a honeymoon period, since I wasn't eating that terribly to begin with. That said, there's a number of primal tranches you can progress on:

                Sleep: How frequently? How long? What's the benefit? Why?

                Exercise: How frequently? How long? What's the benefit? Why?

                Cold Treatment: How frequently? How long? What's the benefit? Why?

                Fasting: How frequently? How long? What's the benefit? Why?

                Nutrition: What vitamins and minerals do I need (that I'm not currently getting)? What are the best and most accessible natural sources of them?

                IBS: How do gut flora affect me? What gut flora do I need to culture? How do I feel about antibiotics? How can I culture or re-seed healthy bacteria in my intestines? What does gluten do to me? What is gluten sensitivity?

                CHD: What is Cholesterol and how does it work? How does my diet affect cholesterol? How does cholesterol affect my risk of heart disease? What are the real risk factors for Heart disease? What are the effects of Fructose? Sugar? O6 oils? Inflammatory foods in general?

                Macros: How much is enough carbs? How much is not enough? Is Gluconeogenesis desirable? What's a good fat? What's a bad fat? Why is inflammation bad?

                Communication: How can I emphasise and convince people about the differences and benefits to 'mainstream' people without seeming like a whackjob? What's the 'just enough' that they will find compelling and actually act on?
                Last edited by magicmerl; 10-02-2012, 05:37 PM. Reason: Added IBS and CHD sections
                Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                Griff's cholesterol primer
                5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                bloodorchid is always right


                • #23
                  I got PMS followed by period, fell off the wagon by way of PMS fueled sugar cravings, gained back 10 pounds in one week and considered not getting out of bed anymore.

                  But I am back now and am ready for my new honeymoon cycle.

                  Hopefully my next lady time is not so bad, but 10 steps forward, 8 steps back, 10 steps forward is better than no steps forward ever!


                  • #24
                    At the start I went a year without any junk food at all. Now I eat a bit of junk every few weeks but am overall mostly primal.
                    In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.


                    • #25
                      I'm usually fine-tuning. It's something that we enjoy doing. new information is awesome to learn from.

                      Right now, we're in a whole 30 16/8 IF process. For me, this means not only no chocolate, but also no pork. Butter is ok, as I don't eat much anyway.

                      And I'm always figuring out fun new movement stuff.


                      • #26
                        Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                        you have to do a really hard snort back into your throat so you can cry/cough/cry/sniff/chew/swallow
                        And then, spit out.


                        • #27
                          Three times I have done WW to reach my goal weight and three times I have gone and put the weight back on. Its is the fear of having to do WW again that keeps me primal! Primal keeps my weight stable without having to starve myself and do rediculous amounts of cardio. That is all the motivation I need.


                          • #28
                            Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                            Can I borrow your life, but sub ukulele with piano? Small business and living on the road is exactly what I dream of doing, but $$ will not allow it anytime soon.
                            Well we haven't actually accomplished it yet! But we're becoming increasingly certain that we can make it work, and laying plans to make it happen.

                            Hard to fit a piano in a camper van, but I suppose you could squeeze in an upright...
                            Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

                            My Primal Journal


                            • #29
                              Still honeymooning. Back in May, I started reading about GMOs, BPAs, soy, veganism, Monsanto/roundup, the govt connection, etc. So even before I found Paleo and Primal, I had tossed out a lot of food in my house - anything canned, anything w/corn (buh bye corn chips), anything with soy. There were three (low calorie) staples in my home I had a hard time getting rid of. When I finally learned to make aioli, was willing to pay for pastured half and half, and bought the first real (pastured) butter I had in years, I realized my commitment to my health was carved in stone. Grains, beans, etc. were pretty easy to get rid of.

                              Now I like to play with tweaking. I like changing things up. Do something hard for a week, then do something else hard. Staying within the parameters of whole lower carb foods and non-injurious exercise. Different periods of fasting. All animal days, all plant days.

                              Hopefully by playing like this, the honeymoon will never be over.
                              "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine


                              Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.


                              • #30
                                No honeymoon for me, either. More like living together while we get boundary issues sorted out! When I look at magicmerl's list, I now sleep better, have more control of my IBS, have more stable moods, am more spontaneous and laugh more, and I can fast for the first time in my life. I've also lost weight. These are all 'friends with benefits' advantages, but they're not as predictable as marriage.

                                While I've committed to Primal, he hasn't really committed to me. I get tired of him always getting to decide what will work and what won't. Some days I'm in gut pain, some days I'm not. I can never predict what size my belly will be, and whether I'll be constipated. I am still a size 18. Some days I'm freaking exhausted by it all, and need a nana nap.

                                The honeymoon will start when I've nailed the bastard down. It's been 19 months so far.

                                Edited to say sorry for the heternormativity
                                Started Feb 18 2011

                                Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                                Journalling here