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  • #16
    my coworkers are asking me when i will stop.


    <blankstare>

    you are getting too skinny

    there aint nothing of you left

    oreally???
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    • #17
      I'm still trying to figure out wtf "Try-ee" means.

      Though I agree... I'm never going back!

      I haven't seen all the "weight loss" I want yet.
      BUT, I'm recovering from some serious neurological illness and my body is still in healing mode I suspect.
      The past month when I've made the most progress healing, weight loss has stalled completely.
      Heck... I'll take it.
      I've got time.
      Nothing but time!
      Because I will be "Primal" for the long haul.

      I'm hoping for a possible "remission" by the end of the year...
      Clean healthy foods... crap won't get me there!!!
      “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
      ~Friedrich Nietzsche
      And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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      • #18
        That's reference to the retiree here:

        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread66573.html
        My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
        When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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        • #19
          Yes, this is the one! http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread66573.html

          Pretending primal didn't work when you never tried it. It's like, "I've never driven a Corvette, but the handling was abysmal." And a hundred other threads like it, mostly from people who didn't embrace fat and so never found satiety and fixed their metabolisms, or whatever people are calling it these days. And a few people for whom it really didn't work due to hormone problems, etc. But mostly, I see way too much half-assing and not enough patience among some newbies. If you're going to do it, DO IT. Don't add bacon to your toast and pretend it's paleo. Get off the nuts and dairy, minimize the fruit and starchy things, hit the animal fat like it's candy and figure out how much to eat. I don't know what else to say except that, even though everybody is different, there IS a paleo for each person. Maybe for some it really is high-starch. But it's obvious that grains aren't a good food! Bah. I'm just a cranky old man in training.

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          Last edited by Knifegill; 09-27-2012, 12:48 PM.
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          • #20
            Okay, so what's the difference in 98% fat raw macadamia nuts and nitrate-loaded (or celery seed loaded with some natural 'sugar cane extract') bacon? If you eat nuts as food, not as an add-on, where the heck is the difference?
            My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
            When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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            • #21
              Ha... That "Retiree" thread was such a FAIL...
              The "Try-ee" Was a bit of a stretch for me though. LOL

              I agree with all you've got there Knife...

              I've not exactly had "the easy road" here by any means.
              I have serious medical issues.
              And I think that sometimes there are people here who push things on the board a little one-sided/narrow minded.
              "High carb", LC, VLC, ZeroCarb, whatever...

              The truth is that eating healthy clean foods is the premium #1 IMPORTANCE...
              Then you have to find what works for YOU re: weightloss, muscle gain, etc.
              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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              • #22
                Great OP. Primal is not a magic bullet. It requires tenacity and discipline (at least to begin with), plus a fair bit of n=1 tinkering for many.

                And with all that, the results speak for themselves.
                F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                • #23
                  Cori! Stop making sense! You might convince people to be nice to each other and then where would we be?
                  “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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                  • #24
                    Okay, so what's the difference in 98% fat raw macadamia nuts and nitrate-loaded (or celery seed loaded with some natural 'sugar cane extract') bacon? If you eat nuts as food, not as an add-on, where the heck is the difference?
                    Plant fat and protein are a lot different than animal fat and protein. In my N=1, 1000 calories of macadamia nuts leaves me bloated and unsatisfied, while unable to eat anything else for a long time. 1000 calories of bacon leaves me full, but very satisfied - for about 15 hours! We're talking extremes here, and clearly macadamia nuts and bacon both beat SAD options like a Little Caesar's pizza! Maybe you really do tolerate nuts very well, but for many - and I think most - they contribute to bloat and revv up the appetite while doing little (less than other options) to provide for the body. But it took me MONTHS to figure that out for myself!
                    Crohn's, doing SCD

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                    • #25
                      My other option is butter or coconut oil ??? I feel like I am actually eating when I eat nuts. I don't feel like I have eaten after butter, oil or bacon. I dunno, I feel like I hardly eat anything, and nothing that tastes remotely good any more. I can't even eat meat any more because it causes protein to spike and I can't fit it into calories with enough fats. It's eggs, and nuts, and coconut something. And a bit of cabbage. What food do you eat apart from bacon?
                      Last edited by Leida; 09-27-2012, 01:30 PM.
                      My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                      When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                      • #26
                        Well, yeah! If you've got the body you want, the labs look good, and the nutrition on the whole adds up pretty well - do what works! I'd imagine a higher CRP on a nut-fed person, but that's just supposition.
                        Crohn's, doing SCD

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                        • #27
                          I don't really eat bacon. Maybe 1x a week, max? It's a good natural, nitrate free bacon, too.

                          By volume, I mostly eat veggies. I make a simple dressing of olive oil and mustard (i use a whole seed mustard that has a bit of vinegar in it). That gets me a fair amount of fat.

                          Then, I consume eggs. I eat about 3-5 eggs a day depending upon the day.

                          Then, I consume meat. It's not really that much. Anywhere between 4-10 oz on a given day. Usually fish or beef, sometimes chicken. We also make bone broth and I consume that. About 1/2 cup a day.

                          Then, I consume fruit. About two servings.

                          Finally, I consume butter (used to fry eggs), nuts, or chocolate. I don't eat nuts, chocolate, or butter every day. And sometimes it alternates days. Like, yesterday, I had chocolate. The day before I had nuts. The day before that I'd had butter. Sometimes I have all three in one day. But, it's definitely small amounts (hand full of nuts, 25 g chocolate, 2 'pats' of butter).

                          And then outside of this, there is the very occasional dining out and thereby having rice (or rice noodles), or having cookies, cake, muffin, scone, or ice cream (well, gelato). The rice is more frequent -- maybe once a month? and the others are more . . . quarterly. I tend to go through a week each quarter where I'll eat a lot of non-primal things -- cakes, muffins, scones, etc -- then I feel terrible and am bloated and stuff, and then within a week of being back on primal 100%, I feel good again.

                          Anyway, that's me. That's what I eat.

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                          • #28
                            Seriously, we even eat the same way.
                            “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

                            Owly's Journal

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                            • #29
                              I try it 2 days a month and those are the only days I don't poo my pants. PRIMAL DOESN'T WORK.
                              “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Goldie View Post
                                Having LOTS of energy is pissing off all my coworkers.
                                I find that I'm working through a knotty problem with someone at work, when suddenly they need to break for lunch or something.

                                Weaklings.
                                Last edited by magicmerl; 09-27-2012, 02:48 PM.
                                Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

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