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  • #16
    Originally posted by primalrob View Post
    that's oversimplifying, and he would agree. the idea is that you don't really need to watch your calories if you are obeying your hunger because the food is sating. i feel if someone is really following all ten primal laws well, they really can eat all they want because they won't want too much.
    if your trying to lose weight you have to watch your calories period. or start burning a lot more

    I understand that's what he meant that you wont be ravenously hungry all the time because of feeling satiated. but for an obese person they eat a ton in one sitting
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    • #17
      So you tried a diet for one WHOLE MONTH, and when you went OFF the diet, your health problems recurred, and you are blaming going ON the diet for this?

      I r confoosed.
      Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

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      • #18
        I started down this path in late June at 237lbs and in chronic pain. The pain was the result of knee and shoulder injuries in contact sports in my teens along with a fused spine resulting from a burst fracture of L1 in a hunting accident in my 30's.

        I am now 214lbs and still losing, but slowly. I have NO pain. I went from daily painkillers to none at all. I have more energy and even my nasal allergy problems seem to be gone. I was one of those types that had to wear a respirator to mow my yard. No more.

        My target weight is somewhere around 200lbs. I'll know I'm there when I see the rest of my six pack . The top half is peeking out already lol.

        35 days is barely enough time to realize most of the benefits and this really has to be a lifestyle change and not a "diet".

        Yeah, sure slip a little sugar or grain into your diet every now and then. Even Mark's books say to do that. I have to say though that doing that makes me appreciate good foods. I feel like crap after eating ANY wheat at all now. Rice products I can get away with. Wheat products make me sick. Pretty sure I've been gluten intolerant all along and just didn't know it.
        Last edited by rantingredneck; 09-25-2012, 11:22 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BennettC View Post
          if your trying to lose weight you have to watch your calories period. or start burning a lot more

          I understand that's what he meant that you wont be ravenously hungry all the time because of feeling satiated. but for an obese person they eat a ton in one sitting
          Ok, kiddo...

          Listen.
          You are misinformed.
          Not all obese people "eat a ton in one sitting", some are grazers who eat very small amounts frequently.
          Others have slower metabolisms, and in fact eat much less than very active young men like yourself who participate in sports and such.

          People are different... and you can't always judge a book by it's cover.
          Not all obese people are 400lbs and shoveling large pizzas into their faces washed down by 2liters of soda.
          There is a wide spectrum of weight, including normal, overweight, and obese... and a wide range of eating habits that fall withing those areas...
          Stop painting all people with a single color in one brushstroke.

          Oversimplification doesn't simplify anything...
          “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
          ~Friedrich Nietzsche
          And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bob-Tao View Post
            To make a long story short, after 35 days I started adding some grains, gained back a couple of pounds in a couple of weeks, and was back where I started before primal. My BP raised and I went back on my bp meds as well.
            So you went off the program and gained all the weight back and had to go back on bp meds and you blame the program?
            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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            • #21
              You realize this is a lifestyle, correct? You can't do it for 30 days, go off and expect to keep the weight off.

              If I could make a suggestion, which I'm sure some people will disagree with, I would recommend combining primal and weight watchers. My mom has done that and is experiencing remarkable success. But you only mentioned grains. I would suggest going full on primal and cutting out grains, legumes, dairy and maybe even nuts. Spend your points on fish and meat. Fish is especially good for losing weight, we eat it at least 3 times a week. Good luck!
              Out of context quote for the day:

              Clearly Gorbag is so awesome he should be cloned, reproducing in the normal manner would only dilute his awesomeness. - Urban Forager

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              • #22
                Bennettc:
                It aint that simple man. Nothing is black and white, it's all shades of grey. When the body is functioning properly, you will unconsciously adjust meal frequency and volume. Your body will even up-regulate your metabolism to burn off excess energy. However, when you are addicted to carbs and sugar, satiety hormones become overrun. I suggest you research leptin resistance. Repeated overeating will lead to fat accumulation, but overeating isn't actually that easy when you are eating primally. Food simply loses its' appeal after a certain point.
                I am not just pulling this out of my ass to make excuses for myself. I never was fat. I just recognize that this is a multi-faceted issue, and poorly represented by the formula of calories in=calories out.

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                • #23
                  I understand that's what he meant that you wont be ravenously hungry all the time because of feeling satiated. but for an obese person they eat a ton in one sitting
                  But the grains are what make an obese person eat a ton in one sitting. Or make them eat every two hours when they feel a painful hunger. I remember those hunger pains, they were literally PAIN! I never feel that way now. If I care to I can just drink lots of water and ignore the hunger until it goes away.

                  I do somewhat agree with you that calories matter when you get closer to your goal, or hit a plateau. But most of the time they don't with this lifestyle.
                  Out of context quote for the day:

                  Clearly Gorbag is so awesome he should be cloned, reproducing in the normal manner would only dilute his awesomeness. - Urban Forager

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BennettC View Post
                    calories control everything. Mark is wrong when he says to eat all you want.
                    Since going primal, I eat until I'm full every day, pay no attention to calories, and drop fat faster than when I ate following CW guidelines.
                    On days when I take a break from working out, I still eat until I'm full. The difference is that I don't have as much of an appetite during off days, so I don't want as much, but I never count calories.
                    I guess everybody reacts differently.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                      Ok, kiddo...

                      Listen.
                      You are misinformed.
                      Not all obese people "eat a ton in one sitting", some are grazers who eat very small amounts frequently.
                      Others have slower metabolisms, and in fact eat much less than very active young men like yourself who participate in sports and such.

                      People are different... and you can't always judge a book by it's cover.
                      Not all obese people are 400lbs and shoveling large pizzas into their faces washed down by 2liters of soda.
                      There is a wide spectrum of weight, including normal, overweight, and obese... and a wide range of eating habits that fall withing those areas...
                      Stop painting all people with a single color in one brushstroke.

                      Oversimplification doesn't simplify anything...
                      true, my mother I obese and her problem is she junks all day. she doesn't eat bigger composed meals. I was just thinking about how when I was obese I would junk all day and eat large meals
                      Paleo since November 2011 - Carnivore since June 2012
                      Before and after pics
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65846.html
                      Primal Sucess Story
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65400.html
                      Primal Journal
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post955444

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                      • #26
                        ..... and the original poster has not returned so.....
                        Karin


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                        • #27
                          To ignore the emotional aspect of eating doesn't address the whole problem of obesity and the illness that often accompanies it. And not just "emotional eating." For some women, the unwanted attention one gets when one goes from "fat and invisible" to "oh, look at the babe," can be one issue. To ignore the differences in metabolism between a person 10% overweight and one who is 100% overweight doesn't address the whole problem either.

                          Mark, of course, can't address everything. The blueprint is a sustainable, wholesome way of life.

                          As to the original poster, I knew a/many bitch slap(s) was/were coming as soon as I read that this morning. Fixing yourself so you love yourself more than you love Twinkies is more than can be covered in a book or blog.
                          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                          B*tch-lite

                          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BennettC View Post
                            true, my mother I obese and her problem is she junks all day. she doesn't eat bigger composed meals. I was just thinking about how when I was obese I would junk all day and eat large meals
                            So what you're saying is too much food made you fat, and eating less food was what caused you to lose weight.

                            See how it isn't necessarily true that both, or either, of those statements can be applied to every single fat person?
                            Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

                            My Primal Journal

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                            • #29
                              I'm going outside to play now.
                              Female, age 51, 5' 9"
                              SW - 183 (Jan 22, 2012), CW - 159, GW - healthy.

                              Met my 2012 goals by losing 24 pounds.
                              2013 goals are to get fit and strong!

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                              • #30
                                true, my mother I obese and her problem is she junks all day. she doesn't eat bigger composed meals. I was just thinking about how when I was obese I would junk all day and eat large meals
                                There are also obese women who have basic cyclically starved themselves and cardioed themselves to a destroyed metabolism. Oh it's a lovely cycle of starve/sort of binge on sugar/starve/ real sugar binge/ workout at least an hour a day.

                                Fixing yourself so you love yourself more than you love Twinkies is more than can be covered in a book or blog.
                                You don't even need to love yourself to turn down a twinkie- just stay primal for about 3-4 months.

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