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  • #16
    Originally posted by PrimalMama View Post
    850 calories might seem like a large lunch, but keep in mind that a lot of kids (all over the US) EAT THIS AS THEIR ONLY MEAL... which puts the caloric load in a different light, as 850/day is NOT enough for a teenager.
    People snack not just because they're addicted to sugar, but because they're overfed and undernourished and/or they don't know how to break the high/low/craving cycle. It is a sad state of affairs.
    Yes, but like the article said, a school lunch is supposed to be a school lunch.

    “It’s one meal. It is designed to meet the nutrient needs of an average student of that age group, but it’s never going to meet the needs of students who burn far more calories,” Johnson said.

    “We need to encourage breakfasts at home or at school. We need to encourage students to take all of the items at lunch and then to plan for after-school activities by packing a healthy snack.”

    School districts that once financed bigger lunches could continue to offer extra food and comply with the calorie restrictions by establishing an afternoon snack program, Johnson said.

    Parents of athletes and other active children should make sure they have a healthy snack between school and practice, Johnson said.

    “The guidelines don’t say this is the only food a student should have all day,” she said. “We know from research that it is much better to have six small meals and snacks during the day as opposed to a lot of food at one time.”

    Read more here: School lunch calorie limits leave bitter taste with some Kansas students | McClatchy
    Yeah, parents should actually think about feeding their own children. What a concept!

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    • #17
      I don't like this "forgiveness" mindset. It makes me sick. Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. Stay out Michelle Obama. Let schools decide on their meals for themselves.

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      • #18
        I will say it again. If you put your kids in the system then you have to play by the systems rules. DEMAND school choice and you will be in control of your kids education and their diet. And as a bonus I will not have to pay twice!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ecole66 View Post
          I will say it again. If you put your kids in the system then you have to play by the systems rules. DEMAND school choice and you will be in control of your kids education and their diet. And as a bonus I will not have to pay twice!
          That's one way out, but I don't think that's good enough. Is a public school so federal now that no one in the community gets to decide a single thing about it?

          Maybe in a fantasy land, everyone would go to private schools. As it stands, private schools are expensive and for the few.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wiltondeportes View Post
            That's one way out, but I don't think that's good enough. Is a public school so federal now that no one in the community gets to decide a single thing about it?

            Maybe in a fantasy land, everyone would go to private schools. As it stands, private schools are expensive and for the few.
            DEMAND a voucher system. You get to decide where the tax dollars that are now spent on your child's education are spent in the future. We currently spend LESS money to send our daughter to a private school than government spends per child in public school.
            If everyone got a voucher each year for said amount that could be spent at any school the PARENT chooses then more great private schools would be opened and every child would get a better education.

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            • #21
              Anyone remember when Reagan said (as a cost cutting item for the school lunch program) that ketchup was a vegetable? I do, and it was enforced at our school. You could get 2 servings of vegis. If you wanted ketchup on your hamburger or hotdog, that was counted as one vegetable. I remember a lot of hungry high school guys who did reduced fee lunches.

              Michelle O is, like others said, following CW. As have so many other, including the teachers who will be teaching health to these kids.

              Lets see if we can start a campaign to get her to convert!

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              • #22
                Agree with M Obama trying to improve school meals, though as others have said pity she has bought into CW rather than paleo.
                Surprised at the amount of venom on this thread. Can only assume it is related to whatever political party you support.

                I think as part of society, governments should intervene in the interest of Public Health. At the moment the big pharmaceutical companies and large corporations have far too much influence. Unfortunately I think most governments world wide buy into all the health advise funded by large corporations etc. how bad has the obesity epidemic got to get before they realise that they need to do something different.
                So sad looking at kids and adults who look like they have fat suits on, their faces and bodies really bloated. Yet they are told to eat CW.

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                • #23
                  This thread isn't about what would actually work for our children, all of our children, it's an excuse to grind the libertarian axe against Obama and the big bad government. Have at it Hoss but your thread sux big time. I came here because I want to learn to eat a more healthy diet and to live a more healthy lifestyle. I didn't come here to discuss hateful political views. We're all in this together but for some that isn't true.

                  Vouchers give religious education public money. I believe in separation of church and state as it's stated in our constitution. We need to address our problems in ways that are beneficial to us all and public education would benefit from being funded as fully as the military is but that won't happen with this mind set.

                  I won't say anymore...but this is disappointing to me.
                  A Woman's Place Is In The Revolution.

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                  • #24
                    850 calories might seem like a large lunch, but keep in mind that a lot of kids (all over the US) EAT THIS AS THEIR ONLY MEAL... which puts the caloric load in a different light, as 850/day is NOT enough for a teenager.
                    Wait, what? That sounds like child abuse to me..
                    Out of context quote for the day:

                    Clearly Gorbag is so awesome he should be cloned, reproducing in the normal manner would only dilute his awesomeness. - Urban Forager

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Wildrose View Post
                      Wait, what? That sounds like child abuse to me..
                      Unfortunately, it happens, and it is not that uncommon amongst kids that are on the school lunch program... either money is too tight at home or the parents aren't really "all there" (physically, emotionally, you name it)...

                      and, while I agree with the sentiment of "don't have kids if you can't afford to take care of them"... not everyone is lucky/educated enough to fully grasp and implement that concept (and sometimes life throws a curveball and s*** hits the fan, too.)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ecole66 View Post
                        They are government schools so government makes the decisions. GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS!!! People need to take responsibility for their own kids and stop handing them over to the government everyday. DEMAND school choice from your representatives.
                        this +1

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by meeme View Post
                          This thread isn't about what would actually work for our children, all of our children, it's an excuse to grind the libertarian axe against Obama and the big bad government. Have at it Hoss but your thread sux big time. I came here because I want to learn to eat a more healthy diet and to live a more healthy lifestyle. I didn't come here to discuss hateful political views. We're all in this together but for some that isn't true.

                          Vouchers give religious education public money. I believe in separation of church and state as it's stated in our constitution. We need to address our problems in ways that are beneficial to us all and public education would benefit from being funded as fully as the military is but that won't happen with this mind set.

                          I won't say anymore...but this is disappointing to me.
                          If there were a voucher program there soon would be many private schools that have no religious connections whatsoever. Government has proven over and over again that they cannot do a respectable job of educating our children. Wouldn't it be nice if even very poor parents could get there children out of a bad school and into a school of THEIR choice? If you would rather grind your anti religion ax than give PARENTS a real CHOICE in their child's future that is your problem. And please tell me how understanding that government, ALL government does hardly anything well makes a person "hateful".

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                          • #28
                            I pack my daughter's lunch since she does not like what they consider healthy. My students keep snacks in their lockers because they are hungry. Why are they hungry?? Many lunches consist of multiple servings of grains (I kid you not, they will serve 3 breadsticks with marinara sauce, a dinner roll, a brownie and a cheese stick-ugh!) and a 6th grader burns that off quick.
                            Karin


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Wildrose View Post
                              Wait, what? That sounds like child abuse to me..
                              Its called poverty.
                              Karin


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ecole66 View Post
                                If there were a voucher program there soon would be many private schools that have no religious connections whatsoever. Government has proven over and over again that they cannot do a respectable job of educating our children. Wouldn't it be nice if even very poor parents could get there children out of a bad school and into a school of THEIR choice? If you would rather grind your anti religion ax than give PARENTS a real CHOICE in their child's future that is your problem. And please tell me how understanding that government, ALL government does hardly anything well makes a person "hateful".
                                The problem with vouchers is that it is still taxpayer stolen and money and still ultimately under government control. How long before government starts passing rules, regulations, and attaching "strings" to any educational institution that wants to be eligible for voucher funds? Within a decade or so, the system would be indistinguishable from the one we have now. We throw the word "socialist" around but we have to understand that there are no socialists anymore. It doesn't work. Almost all socialists in the West have converted to Fascism. It is a far more subtle and effective, and at the end of the day, you get the same result.

                                The only effective solution to the education crisis in this country is to get rid of government schools and replace them with nothing. Unleash the power of the market to create a vibrant and competitive education industry.

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