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    so i carry most of my weight in my belly and back. from reading around, i see that this is probably because i have high testosterone levels...and lots of stress. which are both true.

    so what can i eat, and do to make sure that i am addressing these issues? i am doing alot of bodyweight exercising tabata style, but i want to make sure i am doing whatever i can do address this.

    thanks in advance!

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    Do you mean LOW testosterone levels? As I understand it, testosterone decreases fat storage and raises metabolism slightly, and estrogen has the opposite effect. It's why women tend to have higher body-fat ratios than men (on average).

    If that's what you mean, then lots of saturated fats in the diet will help as well as cholesterol, as these are what the body uses to produce testosterone from. Therefore, being deficient in them leaves you with little for the body to turn into testosterone.

    Lifting heavy things is also great for testosterone boosting but you're already doing that.

    Also, for great fat burning, go for LONG walks regularly.
    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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    • #3
      nope i mean high testosterone.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Amber View Post
        nope i mean high testosterone.
        Please explain then. I usually associate fat, lazy folks with people who have never lifted a damn thing a day in their life, eat a crappy high carb/low fat diet and generally have low testosterone levels.

        I have read for MYSELF that estrogen tends to be the fat storage hormone, NOT testosterone.
        "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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        • #5
          women who have high cortisol and testosterone tend to carry their weight in their stomachs. i have abnormally high testosterone levels.

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          • #6
            and youre a little stereotypical there. there are MANY obese people in the population who are not infact lazy, they have other things going on. whether it be diet or medical. i am where i am right now because i have several chronic health conditions that require treatment with steroids. not to say i would be skinny if i hadnt taken them, but i dont consider myself lazy, i have definitely lifted heavy things more than once in my life. theres alot of other factors (as i would assume you would know considering your post count) that would contribute to someones size.

            assuming that they are "fat, lazy people who never lifted anything in their life" is rude...or perhaps i misinterpreted what you said.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Amber View Post
              women who have high cortisol and testosterone tend to carry their weight in their stomachs. i have abnormally high testosterone levels.
              I have also heard this is a common body shape for women with higher than average testoterone levels. I am the opposite (all boobs and butt)...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jena View Post
                I have also heard this is a common body shape for women with higher than average testoterone levels. I am the opposite (all boobs and butt)...
                lol well lucky you! haha

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Amber View Post
                  and youre a little stereotypical there. there are MANY obese people in the population who are not infact lazy, they have other things going on. whether it be diet or medical. i am where i am right now because i have several chronic health conditions that require treatment with steroids. not to say i would be skinny if i hadnt taken them, but i dont consider myself lazy, i have definitely lifted heavy things more than once in my life. theres alot of other factors (as i would assume you would know considering your post count) that would contribute to someones size.

                  assuming that they are "fat, lazy people who never lifted anything in their life" is rude...or perhaps i misinterpreted what you said.
                  ITA^
                  Sorry I can't answer your question

                  Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                  Please explain then. I usually associate fat, lazy folks with people who have never lifted a damn thing a day in their life, eat a crappy high carb/low fat diet and generally have low testosterone levels.

                  I have read for MYSELF that estrogen tends to be the fat storage hormone, NOT testosterone.
                  What you said is true, but testosterone in the OP's case might only determine the pattern in which the fat has accumulated (male pattern vs female pattern).
                  Height: 5ft 9"
                  Current pants size: 20 (Canada sizing).
                  Goal: I'll let you know when I've reached it.

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                  is a faithful servant. We have created a society that
                  honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.”
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                  • #10
                    I never said EVERY obese person was lazy. I said that those who are tend to have low testosterone levels. I realize there are exceptions to every statement and never intended for it to be a rule. In fact, I am well aware that the world record holder for women's weightlifting is without a doubt, overweight and obese but I CERTAINLY wouldn't call her lazy.

                    By the by though, cortisol displaces and breaks down testosterone from what I've read, thus displacing it. If testosterone is what causes the fat storage, then by that logic, you would want to INCREASE cortisol levels. Then you'd WANT to overtrain, drink gallons of coffee, and generally stress out a lot. You'd certainly lower your testosterone by a good amount!

                    Cortisol and testosterone RARELY rise along side each other. It's typically one, or the other. Hence people with high cortisol also having issues with libido, muscle building, and other issues typically associated with a healthy hormonal system.
                    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                    • #11
                      lol i have high cortisol and testosterone levels. the bloodwork confirms it. i am just wondering what workouts and foods i can be eating to get an edge on my weightloss. that is all.

                      ..and i was simply pointing out that your post was stereotypical and rude. regardless of intent.

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                      • #12
                        Well I have no clue then. I know of some good ways to lower testosterone and raise estrogen, but I am loathe to suggest them because they are generally considered unsafe and CERTAINLY not primal. Generally, messing with your hormonal make-up without a doctor's assistance, even in the form of small tweaks, is risky.
                        "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                        • #13
                          In general, the Paleo or Primal Blueprint diet does tend to help women with PCOS, who also have testosterone dominance. So perhaps start with just the basics as far as the diet.

                          It is possible that doing tabata-style workouts is a little stress-inducing. I think Mark recommends tabata or just regular sprinting only every 7 to 10 days. Then some strength training 2-3 times a week, but not for huge amounts of time. And most of the time very low stress stuff.

                          I don't have, or at least I'm unaware of, any serious hormonal issues. I was doing 2x a week of body weight exercise classes. One of them was really focused on strength exercises and form but the other mixed a lot of cardio into it and was sort of high impact. I got a lot more from the focused one. We are on a two-week hiatus from these classes and I've only been doing extremely slow running and biking (heart rate no higher than 133). I can't believe the energy I feel lately. I think when the classes resume I am only going to take the one strength class. I'm not going to bother with sprinting anymore. All that was just too stressful. I feel so much better with this slow stuff, like light years better. I share this because it's worth considering. Mark's an ex-pro athlete and a man. I'm not sure he knows what's best for women all the time. And personally, I think this focus on cross-fit and all this super high impact stuff is a little bit of "if a little is good, a lot must be better."
                          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                          • #14
                            Women who are pre-menopausal typcially store weight in their lower body (belly, thighs, hips) due to estrogen, which is responsible for both the act of fat storage and the placement. After menopausal, women typically transition to storing fat in the way that men typically do (upper body). The book, 'Why Women Need Fat' was really excellent is explaining the hows and whys of female fat storage, I highly recommend it, even though I don't remember if it really mentioned treating women with abnormal fat storage.

                            I'm not an expert, but it seems like a good idea to get your hormones tested so you can have some data about the actual levels, that way if you decide to supplement with hormones, you'll be able to gauge how effective they are (in additional to knowing which you need to supplement with).

                            So hormones that might be worth researching (I don't know what would be appropriate for you to take) are:
                            progesterone and pregnenolone

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