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    Are anyone else's VFFs too narrow?

    I have really wide, short feet. Think Fred Flintstone and Donald Duck. I never could get girlie shoes even if I was inclined to. I developed neuromas between my middle toes as a result of wearing shoes that felt wide enough (very hard to find) but were really not and compressed my toes a tiny bit. The pain is like a knife in the ball of my foot.

    So it was out with the old shoes. I got new Birkies, VFFs, and Speedo swim shoes (cute and very stretchy). I love my VFFs, but after about 3 miles I get a bit of an irritation in the ball of my foot. It just occurred to me that they are too narrow! Just a bit, but I need to stretch them.

    Crazy, huh?

    Now to figure out how to stretch them. They're the ones with the kangaroo leather tops. Any ideas?
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    I also have wide, flat duck feet. I always opt for the men's VFFs. They tend to be wider. I take a 40 komodo sport. I never understood the obsession with shoe shopping until I tried a pair on. Now I own 2 komodos, some bormios, and trek sports.

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    • #3
      I've had wide feet my whole life... probably because I ran around barefoot EVERYwhere as a kid.

      I've found the VFFs a little narrow/confining, but not to the point where I feel the need to attempt to stretch them.
      If your feet are big enough to get the mens sizes, Dr. Bork Bork's suggestion is a good one (unfortunately, my feet are waaaaay too small for that option *pout*)

      What I used to do with "regular" shoes (most notably adidas sambas and converse all stars) was to pile on really thick socks, multiple layers of socks, or similar - and wear the shoes with the extra padding for a day.... it's sufficient to stretch them just a teensy bit. I also had a friend with bigger feet that volunteered to stretch my shoes once... it worked pretty well.

      oh, and fwiw, for "girly" shoes, I've found several pairs over the years with open toes and adjustable straps that seem to work... and a few "wide" closed-toe versions as well. For better or worse, sometimes it's necessary for me to wear normal "lady" shoes for work (not as necessary as when I was a hostess and was practically required to wear fashionable super-high heels).

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      • #4
        Thanks, Dr Bork Bork! No 37s in mens

        It would be too painful to stretch them with my feet! I think I'll get them wet and put something big in them. The question is WHAT? Regular shoe stretchers are the wrong shape. I guess I'll look around my house ans garage until I find something. I'll let you know how it works.

        I actually found wide girlie shoes in Mexico, where they use wider lasts to make the shoes. The first place I ever found pretty soes that fit! Now Payless has some cute wides.
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        • #5
          I would try putting them on and standing in a tub of water for a couple of minutes, with a thick pair of injinji socks on. Then wear them around the house for a couple of hours to let them dry out. That should break them right in and shape them to your feet. The kangaroo leather is fine to get wet, it won't hurt it.
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          • #6
            I'm a woman and I have VERY wide feet... like EE wide.

            In any ofthe styles that cover the tops of the feet I buy the mens styles, one size smaller than what I wear in womens typically depending on the specific VFF.
            They fit fine.
            The mens VFFs are made wider.

            I wear the womens styles that are low cut and leave my arches completely exposed.
            I have no problems with any tightness on my feet in these.

            Yes.... with the leather, wet and wear until dry.
            Walk around some... sit some... walk some.
            They will be YOUR shoes then. Sort of custom formed.
            Last edited by cori93437; 09-18-2012, 12:07 PM.
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            • #7
              I'll try that, Unceph! Thanks!
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              • #8
                I thought VFFs didn't even have mens and women's sizes. Just men's and women's colors. Anyway, I think they loosen up after a while.

                I only wear VFFs in my exercise class but for actual outdoor exercise, I prefer to wear sandals. There's always enough room in my sandals.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                  I thought VFFs didn't even have mens and women's sizes. Just men's and women's colors. Anyway, I think they loosen up after a while.

                  I only wear VFFs in my exercise class but for actual outdoor exercise, I prefer to wear sandals. There's always enough room in my sandals.
                  Nope... the mens sizing is different than the womens, and they are made on a wider base.
                  For instance a size 40 in a mens classic is 10", size 40 in a women's classic is 9 5/8" and built on a narrower base.
                  (There is a page at the Vibram website that says the womens and mens base is a different width and suggests that women with very wide feet try mens sizes.)
                  Here is a complete size chart.
                  Vibram FiveFingers Sizing Chart
                  Also, as you can see from the chart... some models sizing varies as compared to other models.
                  Last edited by cori93437; 09-18-2012, 02:27 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Yeah, dude and chic vibrams are totally different. The sizes even vary vastly between each style. I can take a 40 in one and a 36 in another. My bormios are 42's, komodos are 40s, and I think my treks are 39s or 41s, I forget.

                    I ran around barefoot with a herd of horses as a kid and have never really liked wearing shoes. At home I'm barefoot. Vibrams only go on if I'm going out past my road.
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                    • #11
                      Wow! You guys are a fount of information! Thanks for the link, Cori!

                      I soaked my VFFs in water, put on my heavy wool toe socks, then my VFFs and wore them wile working for a few hours. It was work getting my toes in the shoes with those socks!

                      After a few hours I took off the socks and went for a walk. Four miles with no pain. I think that was the answer. Thank you all so much!
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                      • #12
                        Ah, that explains why I have a pair of 40s but tried on a pair of 40s at the store and they were huge. I tried on all the various sizes they had of that particular model and none of them fit. They all had tiny little toes I could barely squeeze my toes into and none had a foot part that fit. The ones I have are definitely ladies but the toes are so long they are almost too long. I figured their sizes must be totally all over the place and unreliable.
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                        • #13
                          I have scrawny feet, and honestly my VFF's fit my feet really well, which is interesting as I thought they'd be too wide when I purchased them (online) and was rapt they actually fit. This suggests they ARE a fairly narrow fit. So yeah, as the others suggested, try men's sizing perhaps. I'd also try and get into an actual store that sells them (if you're currently buying online) so you can try on the different styles.

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                          • #14
                            I bought my first pair in person, 37s, but it turned out that they were a bit short in the foot as my toes are short and squared off. I bought this current pair online, 38s, and mostly lucked out in the sizing. I believe that I checked here at MDA and the style they are (some discontinued trail model) ran large by all reports. Most shoe makers use factories all over the world so sizes vary incredibly.

                            I must say that I have been very happy with my Speedo swim shoes at $14 as a nearly barefoot experience. They are so cheap that I got two, one black and functional for my trail walks, one turquoise and cute for looking good in town. There is no heel lift, they stretch as wide as needed, and the sole is fairly thin and very flexible for a good nearly barefoot experience. Not nearly so troublesome as vffs. And no one calls them gorilla feet.
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