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  • One more thought on a supposed fertility epidemic. From my understanding, the issues are mostly in guys. It only takes one guy to impregnate 100 girls. We could shift a little to polygamy if we had to. For the good of our species survival, I will do the duty....

    But if you read Sex At Dawn, you would understand how it is important for all members to participate in the mating so that everyone feels like the children could be their own. An obvious polygamy situation where the men in submission get nothing is a recipe for failure. Now I am advocating orgies....moving on.

    We are so protected from any danger of our species going extinct due to 'fertility issues' that it's hilarious. Throw in our modern ability to do things like C-sections and monitor babies in the womb. Our fertility appears to be at the BOTTOM of any worries we might have about the future of humans in general.

    PS- Thank god for the C-section and ultrasound. I'm alive today because of it.
    Last edited by wiltondeportes; 09-15-2012, 05:00 PM.

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    • Originally posted by wiltondeportes View Post
      fertility epidemic.
      Sounds much more appropriate.

      “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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      • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
        Sounds much more appropriate.

        Awesome. A staged photo as your penultimate response to World Health Organization finding that you're effeminate and sterile.

        Anyway, again, it's good to know that you're a goner, in the evolutionary sense. Our species won't have to deal with your limp genes much longer.

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        • Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
          First off, congratulations to you and yours, obviously.

          Secondly, the issue isn't that there is "always infertility". That's basically just an axiom. I mean, dudes get their nuts damaged in accidents, women reach menopause, and then just random individual variations always make this so....

          ....But the sudden and rapid decline cannot logically be attributed to this sort of organic variation, any more than, say, the dramatic decrease in height at the start of agriculture could be attributed to just a random variation. It was too acute and too vast to be dismissed as happenstance. The same with the fact that dudes have 8% as much sperm as their fathers' did: the scale and uniformity of the problem can only be caused by an external force at play, not randomness.
          Well be that as it may, there's still 7 billion people currently inhabiting the planet, so I'm not sure that infertility is the biggest issue we have in today's society!

          Obviously it would be a problem if generation after generation the numbers of people were dropping significantly, but I don't see that happening yet.

          For an individual, infertility can be a heartbreaking thing. But as far as the earth's population goes, a bit of infertility is not a terrible thing at all. (Given that fertile people still outnumber infertile people).

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          • Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
            It's cool that you're a Darwinian dead-end and our species will be rid of your genes as soon as you die....but please don't impose your lifestyle choices on others...

            Just make sure to keep yourself sterilized and leave the rest of us alone. Thank you.
            Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
            ...the most Primal need of all: procreation.

            ...

            Suffice to say: Just don't have children and keep your creepy, impotent and barren hands off my body and my family's bodies.
            Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
            I don't like sterile, impotent dudes trying to boss me around. So STFU.
            Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
            That's fine: you're a Darwinian dead-end, and our species will be rid of you for all eternity very soon. This is your choice, and that's perfectly fine.

            ...I believe in individual freedom, not having impotent strange dudes make life decisions for others.

            So just live your life of sterility, and leave other dudes the hell alone.
            Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
            Awesome. A staged photo as your penultimate response to World Health Organization finding that you're effeminate and sterile.

            Anyway, again, it's good to know that you're a goner, in the evolutionary sense. Our species won't have to deal with your limp genes much longer.
            Last edited by Chaohinon; 09-15-2012, 06:53 PM.
            “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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            • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
              Dude's (creepily) obsessed. Maybe if he stopped worrying so much about other people's procreative choices he might find someone to help him practice his own.
              Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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              • and my genes are not limp
                “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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                • Diet absolutely plays a role in fertility. I have PCOS. I wasn't diagnosed for many, many years. Until I went paleo/primal, my periods were absent. Not just irregular, completely absent. Now I've had two so far, which must signal that my ovaries are beginning to function again. It doesn't make much difference to me... I'm 34 and unmarried, and unlikely to find a man quickly enough to have children... but theoretically I might be able to. So I'm quite sure diet has a lot to do with it.
                  Out of context quote for the day:

                  Clearly Gorbag is so awesome he should be cloned, reproducing in the normal manner would only dilute his awesomeness. - Urban Forager

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                  • Originally posted by Wildrose View Post
                    Diet absolutely plays a role in fertility. I have PCOS. I wasn't diagnosed for many, many years. Until I went paleo/primal, my periods were absent. Not just irregular, completely absent. Now I've had two so far, which must signal that my ovaries are beginning to function again. It doesn't make much difference to me... I'm 34 and unmarried, and unlikely to find a man quickly enough to have children... but theoretically I might be able to. So I'm quite sure diet has a lot to do with it.
                    I'm really sorry about all those years indulging in the S.A.D. (or I guess for you it'd be the S.C.D.) and the serious deleterious effects it had. Many of us can relate, although obviously if the damage is permanent, than that's kind of a different tier of problem.

                    Still, you obviously have a strong will if you at least want to have children (as opposed to the mob of limp, childless nothings that hijack this and every thread remotely related to the subject of fertility or population) and I'd be willing to bet that you could well get pregnant just on the vivacity of spirit.

                    Anyway, though, I'm out of my depth, trying to be inspirational!

                    But I concur that the diet has likely played a strong role (I'd guess the biggest role) in this assault waged on mankind, reducing sperm counts by 92%, causing some regions to have way, way more girls than boys, and the myriad of other related, unnatural phenomenons. I hope that there can be some more useful responses here contributing information and assistance rather than celebrating your predicament.

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                    • This thread gets funnier and funnier...
                      Need more fuel... statistically Russia isn't really in bad shape... it's within the normal curve of male/female birth rates and "living to reproductive age" m/f persons.
                      Here's a handy chart.
                      List of countries by sex ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                      "A ratio above 1 means there are more males than females, while a ratio below 1 means there are more females than males. A ratio of 1 means there are equal numbers of females and males.

                      Many countries have a ratio either slightly above or below 1. It's actually very normal.
                      If you want some REAL outliers...
                      You should be digging around and advocating for what ever is going on in Qatar and the UAE! Because those two countries are seriously very clearly out of balance. It would be a much more useful of your time... since Russia is only at .92... (below 1 by .08) which is easily made up in the grand scheme of things by the over abundance men in countries like China (+.06). And other countries which are NATURALLY more skewed towards a higher male population, rather than the one they have that is artificially selected for.

                      And actually... many places that aren't really "highly westernized" seem to have just as broad a variation in male to female gender selection as Russia and China do. Not that amazing.
                      But go on blaming some ghost entity or mysterious gub'ment force for "assaulting" you and your brethren comrades testicles all you like... it does make for some good laughs.

                      It also doesn't take a genius to figure out that your obsession with calling everyone who disagrees with you "impotent, limp, and sterile" is nothing more than a bad case of transference.
                      You should see a doctor about that. It really seems like it's causing you some mental health issues.
                      Last edited by cori93437; 09-15-2012, 09:55 PM.
                      “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                      ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                      And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                      • beautiful
                        yeah you are

                        Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                        lol

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                        • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                          Wanna make a bet Bloodorchid?
                          I bet DavidBrennan comes back and says...

                          But what he really means is:
                          "I reject ALL reality and substitute my own!"
                          “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                          ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                          And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                          • despite having a feminine name, obviously cori your balls are dry dusty impotent sterile raisins and good riddance to your gene pool you impotent male
                            beautiful
                            yeah you are

                            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                            lol

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                            • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post

                              This thread starts off with a terrifying story about the World Health Organization having to drastically lower the average value of "normal" sperm count. Just really chilling stuff.

                              Because you people do it at every internet forum, I explicitly asked that this thread be devoted to information, to assisting people who might have fertility issues related to diet, and to diagnosing the larger issue.

                              It didn't do any good. As always, the childless mob came in celebrating the infertility epidemic.

                              I try to concede their impotence and sterility: good for you. You're sterile and have no reproductive drive. Fine. ....But it doesn't do any good. They're obsessed with trying to assault (or have the government assault) OTHER people to make them sterile, too.

                              Now we've had at least two people with tragic fertility issues post here. Not one person has offered any useful information or assistance. Instead, the childless hordes (who are completely ignorant of economics and system dynamics that actually effect "Mother Earth" that they're so obsessed with) celebrate these people's medical struggles and respond with....idiot graphical puns that wouldn't make a seven year old giggle.

                              Grow the up, get a life, and stop hijacking the thread intended to diagnose a problem and assist people with it.

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                              • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                                despite having a feminine name, obviously cori your balls are dry dusty impotent sterile raisins and good riddance to your gene pool you impotent male
                                You guys are just hilarious, celebrating each other's lame jokes.

                                What useless nothings.

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