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  • Why do people who go vegan turn mean?

    No offence, but why do people who go vegan turn mean? My friend recently went vegan and now she is selfish, self righteous and goes around saying meat is evil and that all my health issues (PCOS, IR, hypothyroid) is because I eat meat etc. and calls people fat and lazy and disgusting...just rude and not nice comments about things/people now. It is very off-putting. I think she gets mad when I say I won't give up eggs/meat/fish. I just don't really get in to it with her. It is all she talks about though. Does changing diet really change people? I have become more positive/better person/more confident/hopeful since finding primal (all good traits) so I don't really get why she is all negative and rude and mean and thinks she is better than everyone because she turned vegan now.
    I'm too stubborn to give up so I keep on trying.

    You're never going to get to the top of the stairs if you don't walk up them.

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    I doubt it has anything to do with being vegan. People become sanctimonious, intolerable preachers any time they think they have found the way.

    It's just the human ego at work. She feels superior because she believes she is no longer causing death to survive (she's wrong). We tend to treat people like crap when we decide we are superior to them.
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    • #3
      A combination of becoming a True Believer and a lack of omega 3's, protein, b vitamins, and sat. fat. Paleos do it too, but at least their D levels tend to be better.

      And True Believer is a disease that effects everyone; christians, atheists, blacks, whites, men, women, libertarians, communists, liberals, republicans, anarchists, vegans, paleos, etc.
      “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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      • #4
        I've known some paleo/primal folks to be just as obnoxious. Self-righteousness is unpleasant no matter what the person's dietary choices.
        “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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        • #5
          good posts.I agree. I guess I am glad I didn't go all self righteous since going primal. I don't and never did thing I was better than anyone so I guess it is just difficult for me to understand it. Plus, she is my friend and I want my old friend personality back not a mean rude person who talks bad about people! But yeh, any group of people can or will act like that,not just vegans.
          I'm too stubborn to give up so I keep on trying.

          You're never going to get to the top of the stairs if you don't walk up them.

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          • #6
            Ha, well, you know... they feel that they're now part of a morally superior club. You should go watch the South Park episode where everyone in the town buys Prius's. "You're doin' a good thing!". Classic.

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            • #7
              Diet can either be the best thing for you, or the worst. There's a good possibility that her mood has changed just by the food she is eating or not eating.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ryan54 View Post
                Diet can either be the best thing for you, or the worst. There's a good possibility that her mood has changed just by the food she is eating or not eating.
                That's a good point. Vegan diet can be too low in fat & too high in sugars, in the forms of fruit & their love of all things agave. I'd be a grouch too if I wasn't eating loads of quality fats, haha.
                "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                • #9
                  I think it's a form of excitement. . . evangelism you might say. She's found a 'one true way' and thereby will use any methods that we can to get people into it. some will use "yay! awesomeness!" and others will use "shame on you!" and so on. It just depends on the person.

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                  • #10
                    She's probably starving, she feels morally superior, and she's hungry for food that tastes like food, not cardboard. I hope it doesn't strain your friendship to the breaking point. Have you asked her about the lousey attitude?

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                    • #11
                      And really, people who strongly adhere to any diet have a habit of being judgmental. I see judgy people on here all day long!

                      But, the biggest difference is that for the hardcore PETA-stomping vegans, it's both a diet and almost a religious calling.

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                      • #12
                        they turn mean because they're assholes
                        beautiful
                        yeah you are

                        Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
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                        • #13
                          I was once a vegan, and it didn't turn me mean . I did it because I thought it was ethically right, but I still believed that it was MY ethics, and not necessarily those of others (if that makes sense??). Just because *I* believe something is right, doesn't mean I expect everyone else to believe it too. Everyone has a right to their opinion.

                          Same with paleo/primal. *I* think it's right (yes, I'm past the vegan stuff) but I don't go slamming it down everyone's throats. In general, I just tell people that I don't eat sugar or grains. If people try and argue with me that grains are healthy, sure I'll argue back, but I don't expect them to just believe me or believe in my inherent rightness! Generally, I let people make up their own decisions about stuff and hope they leave me to do the same!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                            they turn mean because they're assholes
                            Snort! True in many cases, but really, some of the kindest, nicest folks I know are vegans. Horribly misguided and none too healthy, but sweet.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Owly View Post
                              I've known some paleo/primal folks to be just as obnoxious. Self-righteousness is unpleasant no matter what the person's dietary choices.
                              True. You see it all the time on forums. People being called "mindless sheep" for eating bread or not consuming lots of fat. I have also seen people on blogs and youtube that spend a lot of their time antagonising vegetarians. It's all really petty

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