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  • you could also be getting confused with bestrafe mich in german which means punish me lol def not that!!! or not in this context anyways

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    • Seaweed - you need to go and kick a tree !!!!!!!! actually the poor wee tree........... you need to go and punch a rock............. nah actually the poor wee rock.....seas just go for a bloody run !!!!!!!!!

      and I am way too ditsy to do other languages.
      My repertoire includes Bula, hi, nine, vous le vous quee.......... and tous samon arvignon...... LOL
      "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

      ...small steps....

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      • .....seas just go for a bloody run !!!!!!!!!
        I CANT!!!!!!!!!! small children to mind. i am after all mother of the century lol

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        • yeah yeah - I can feel an argument coming on...................... I thought that I was the mother/grandmother of the century !!!!!!!
          "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

          ...small steps....

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          • good job you are out of sprinting distance ;P altho i think we prob both pale into insignificance on the face of some of the superior women out there lmfao!!!!!!!!!! and G you are a genius! i went for a sprint up the hill to check my txts and a run back down twice. i feel alot lot better which is why i let you get away with thinking you may really be mother of the century instead of me lol

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            • you go girl.............


              Scenario - we go into paddock to draft 6 bull calves from Mary-bella and her sidekick (crazy hef).
              Crazy Hef was off a high country station, so the first time she saw a human was when weaned and trucked to ours.
              When I go into the paddock crazy Hef doesn't run away from me, but runs at me. This possibly isn't a problem if I have a huge fence between us, but we are in an open paddock.............. so gwamma hoists up her skirts, throws the zimmer frame into 2nd gear, totally cranks it up and high tails it out of paddock.
              ..........time passes and crazy Hef catches her breath and becomes a wee bit more settled........so Gwamma quietly attempts to shooooooo her through the open gate into a seperate paddock.......... but oh no this is not to be..............
              Tui the untrained strong eyed dog, who may I add is under no control what - so - ever comes bounding into paddock, riles up crazy Hef, who turns on dog, who in turns decides to hide entwined in Gwammas legs !!!!!!!
              So picture this - shakey, near sighted, ditsy Gwamma in paddock, trying to regain footing with 30kg dog lapping at her ankles and 300 kg crazy mad WILD beast having a go !!!!!!!!!
              Lordy be - it wasn't pretty..................
              "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

              ...small steps....

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              • Originally posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
                you go girl.............


                Scenario - we go into paddock to draft 6 bull calves from Mary-bella and her sidekick (crazy hef).
                Crazy Hef was off a high country station, so the first time she saw a human was when weaned and trucked to ours.
                When I go into the paddock crazy Hef doesn't run away from me, but runs at me. This possibly isn't a problem if I have a huge fence between us, but we are in an open paddock.............. so gwamma hoists up her skirts, throws the zimmer frame into 2nd gear, totally cranks it up and high tails it out of paddock.
                ..........time passes and crazy Hef catches her breath and becomes a wee bit more settled........so Gwamma quietly attempts to shooooooo her through the open gate into a seperate paddock.......... but oh no this is not to be..............
                Tui the untrained strong eyed dog, who may I add is under no control what - so - ever comes bounding into paddock, riles up crazy Hef, who turns on dog, who in turns decides to hide entwined in Gwammas legs !!!!!!!
                So picture this - shakey, near sighted, ditsy Gwamma in paddock, trying to regain footing with 30kg dog lapping at her ankles and 300 kg crazy mad WILD beast having a go !!!!!!!!!
                Lordy be - it wasn't pretty..................
                Oh Gwamma, you make me laugh.
                Annie Ups the Ante
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                • Originally posted by Annieh View Post
                  Oh Gwamma, you make me laugh.
                  thanx Annie - it really was a laugh a minute - I can tell you !!!!!!!! LOL
                  Hope all is well up in the big smoke.

                  G x
                  "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                  ...small steps....

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                  • a beef farmer i know says you need to be real careful with cows and dogs. the cows go the dog if the dog doesnt go the cow. if the dog hides behind you, the cow will go over the top of you to get to the dog. nothing like good real life sprinting practise as they dont shoo when they are charging at you! next time take the bike when you move them lol off in search of water. i tell you, if you are on town supply and water magically comes out of taps, you have no idea.

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                    • .oooooh Seas...rain dance coming your way..........
                      actually after Gwammas morning exertion ...... I think that we won't picture Gwamma doing a rain dance......
                      "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                      ...small steps....

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                      • Originally posted by seaweed View Post
                        a beef farmer i know says you need to be real careful with cows and dogs. the cows go the dog if the dog doesnt go the cow. if the dog hides behind you, the cow will go over the top of you to get to the dog. nothing like good real life sprinting practise as they dont shoo when they are charging at you! next time take the bike when you move them lol
                        Yep don't worry Seas - I know all the protocols around cow / dogs / and calves .............guess who was meant to be minding the dog ?????? Guess who is gonna get one hell of a round up later ...........
                        ....and no I won't take the bike - Gwamma post drunk in charge of a zimmer frame is one thing............... Gwamma post drunk in charge of a motorized vehicle that she has no idea how to drive................... you do the math !!!!! LOL
                        "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                        ...small steps....

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                        • i so want a you-tube of that one G. i dont like 4 wheelers. motorcycles are fine but 4 wheelers are another thing altogether. i made a scotch egg just now. i am not feeling very hungry as i was also thinking about having a go at smoking some paua to take weaving with me tomorrow. smoked paua with some sort of cream cheese dip sounds appealing. google reveals no smoked paua recipes so i will have a go tomorrow on a small piece to see what happens. i could always smoke the guts too. they are like roe. well sorta. seaweedy roe. very nice fried in butter but very filling.

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                          • I don't do you tube, and I don't do photos or videos or two wheel motorbikes................ am I boring or what !!!!!!!
                            I don't do paua or roe, seaweed ( thats the floaty in the tide kind), or guts - smoked or otherwise........ YEP....B-O-R-I-N-G
                            "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                            ...small steps....

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                            • Zoes – I was interested to read in another thread that you are involved in a war about beliefs surrounding breastfeeding. I am presuming the war you refer to is me disagreeing with you over a mother being able to feed and adequately sustain a child solely on breast milk until they are eight years old.
                              I thought that this discussion was done and dusted.
                              You think a mother could, and provided evidence, I think that it is utter nonsence, and wouldn’t stack up on any reputable study. (And we can find studies for and against anything)
                              However I also doubt that any woman in her right mind would solely breast feed her child until the age of eight and record all the data and inflict medical tests on her child to see if that child hasn’t suffered any adverse affects. This study would also have to continue for many years after because children continue to grow ( brain development, organ development, bones etc…) until well into their teens if not their early 20’s.

                              I also didn’t really think it appropriate to be debating this on the other guys forum, as it was way off topic – however I am sure that our other Kiwis wont mind be putting it to bed here.

                              So I am sad that you think my response constituted a war. You made a statement and I replied with my opinion. I thought that was it !!!
                              "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                              ...small steps....

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                              • The statement "war" was asserted in humor, but of course other people saw the same conflict issue. It's not a big deal, it's just the internet. Even so, the discussion is frustrating.

                                I find it frustrating for three reasons.

                                First, you are glib: "i'm sure there are studies against!" If there are, then post them. For the record, I did your due diligence and found none. I had my husband do several searches and he found no evidence to support your claim that breast milk looses it's nutritional value after 6 months.

                                Second, your false opinion has far reaching social consequences. What we know is that breastmilk is extremely important for infants -- particularly in the first two years. But, most woman have to battle their way through myths, misinformation, and cultural pressure to succeed at breast feeding.

                                One of those myths/misinformations is what you assert above -- that breast milk looses it's nutrition after 6 months. And this causes a lot of struggle for a lot of mothers.

                                And, while NZ is more open about breastfeeding than the US -- I have to say that it's not by much. Breastfeeding a toddler here (over 18 months) is really frowned upon. I was surprised.

                                And you know what most women told me? That there's no point in providing breast milk after 6 months, because it doesn't provide anything nutritionally important. This, of course, ignores the fact that it does, as well as ignores the fact that nursing provides many other benefits besides nutritional and immunological ones (such as emotional and social development benefits).

                                There was a lot of pressure for me to stop breastfeeding DS, and I did continue on in spite of it. But, no doubt that this pressure also influenced when and why I stopped nursing my son. I believe I stopped too early (he was 3), as he didn't wean himself. I am saddened by that.

                                So, the reality is that these myths and misinformations and cultural ideas about when and which foods are introduced actually inhibits mothers from breastfeeding to natural weaning (2.5 to age 7) which does impact the health of those children.

                                And, it impacts the health of mothers, too. The longer you breastfeed (either one or multiple babies over time), the lower your risk of breast cancer: "A study of Chinese women found that their breast cancer incidence dropped by 63% when they breastfed for six years." (Source)

                                So it's increasingly frustrating to me that people cling to and disseminate misinformation to families trying to make thoughtful decisions on how to best provide for their families.

                                Third, you are clinging to a detail that has been consistently qualified, and yet assert that I have not qualified it thus. It honestly feels like you refuse to understand that qualification.

                                A. I never stated that there were scientific studies of women solely breast feeding their children up to age 8. Instead, I provided nutritional information on the contents of breastmilk and anthropological/human development information on natural weaning.

                                B. I qualified the statement as "sole" referring to an evolutionary advantage under extreme circumstances -- famine.

                                C. I never asserted this as "policy statement" -- what a family should do. I asserted several times that there are many ways to feed a child, and that I prefer baby-led weaning because of it's basis in human development rather than cultural ideas about when feeding should begin.

                                D. It was simply evidence to refute that breastmilk looses nutritional value.

                                E. Evidence supports that breast milk holds nutritional value for infants up to two years, and that beyond that holds immunological value up to natural weaning. After age one, this is considered "supplemental to foods" but before age one, it is considered the "primary nutrition" even if foods ahve been introduced.

                                I don't understand why you seem to find this so difficult to understand, that you keep asserting "glib" statements about studies, what you believe (without providing supporting evidence), and so on.

                                Obviously, you have a right to your opinion. You also have the right for it to be unsupported and misinformed. And, you have a right to share it.

                                And likewise, I have a right to refute it, provide evidence that refutes it, and be frustrated by the fact that you ignore this evidence and then obfuscate by fixating on an unimportant element (the term "sole" even after it was specifically qualified to refer to "during famine conditions").

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