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  • #16
    Originally posted by MissJecka View Post
    I think I found a great plot for my NaNoWriMo novel: A satire of a near-future dystopian society who buy into the idea that they can only eat vegetables... until, over time, the world gets over-populated with animals who rampage human society.

    Perfect.
    This is a novel I would read! And yeah, they kind of overlooked the issues of animal overpopulation, which would put an additional strain on the ecosystem. What will happen to all of those tasty cattle if we don't eat them?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by The Return of Dado
      get rid of the whites
      Demographically this would be least efficient as whites are not a majority population and are definitely not a major producer of offspring.
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      • #18
        you realize that the situation is self correcting. Notice rates of "neolithic" disease.

        what is happening to Monsanto products will happen to humans.

        Pretty soon mother nature will expect to be paid and she will be paid well as famines and disease run rampant throughout the globe. her life blood will be returned and none of us have to do anything but watch and eat whatever your primal substitute for popcorn it.
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        • #19
          Well, way back when I learned that the use of energy in consumption is always roughly 9:1. So plants use 10% of sunlight they get to build new cells, herbivores use 10% of the plantmatter they eat, carnivores use 10% of the meat they eat.

          So yeah, eating meat means a higher waste of energy. Whether or not we can deal with that, who knows. Maybe growing steak in the factory is the future

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          • #20
            Originally posted by quelsen View Post
            you realize that the situation is self correcting. Notice rates of "neolithic" disease.

            what is happening to Monsanto products will happen to humans.

            Pretty soon mother nature will expect to be paid and she will be paid well as famines and disease run rampant throughout the globe. her life blood will be returned and none of us have to do anything but watch and eat whatever your primal substitute for popcorn it.
            yea, i feel your gist

            it's out of your hands, do-gooders, shit will balance out eventually whether you signed the online greenpeace petition or not.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Finnegans Wake View Post
              Slowing the rate of population growth would be the biggest step; reducing 40% waste of food produced would be another.

              Monoculture practices lead to long-term dropoffs in efficiencies, and polyculture farms that raise animals on pasture have the highest efficienies (and also are better for human, animal, and soil) - Google Joel Salatin's "We Can Feed the World." Also, Mother Earth News had a series on sustainable farming being able to feed the world that was very good.

              Human ingenuity > human inefficiency and myopic greed.
              Excellent comment.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by The Return of Dado View Post
                yea, i feel your gist

                it's out of your hands, do-gooders, shit will balance out eventually whether you signed the online greenpeace petition or not.
                Hey Warren buffet became one of the richest ( published ) men on the planet by doing exactly the opposite of what everyone else does.
                Period

                You want world change, want it so bad you cant stand to leave things be. there is only one solution.

                Kill all those who oppose you.
                talk is worthless, a bullet in the head makes for real change...

                Notice i am not in politics nor should i be, I choose peace and non intervention because if i intervene.... I will intervene all the way.

                overpopulation would be the least of worries on planet earth
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by quelsen View Post
                  you realize that the situation is self correcting. Notice rates of "neolithic" disease.

                  what is happening to Monsanto products will happen to humans.

                  Pretty soon mother nature will expect to be paid and she will be paid well as famines and disease run rampant throughout the globe. her life blood will be returned and none of us have to do anything but watch and eat whatever your primal substitute for popcorn it.
                  This.

                  I get that we should save as many lives as we can...but nature will balance itself one way or the other. Overpopulation is going to catch up with us whether by famine, or disease, or natural disaster. Tipping the scales further in an effort to mitigate what is inevitable will only speed the process, in my opinion.

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                  • #24
                    Earth is not somethign you impose ideals on, it lays its laws on YOU.
                    I kind of like that and want to use it in a doomsday movie.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by quelsen View Post
                      you realize that the situation is self correcting. Notice rates of "neolithic" disease.

                      what is happening to Monsanto products will happen to humans.

                      Pretty soon mother nature will expect to be paid and she will be paid well as famines and disease run rampant throughout the globe. her life blood will be returned and none of us have to do anything but watch and eat whatever your primal substitute for popcorn it.
                      While neolithic disease may be wiping people out they generally live long enough to have kids and use up resources. It's not killing people fast enough. The problem with people starving is that you won't just be sitting back eating your primal popcorn substitute. Should it get to the point of disease and famine you'll be fighting to keep every scrap you hope to eat.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Blackcatbone View Post
                        While neolithic disease may be wiping people out they generally live long enough to have kids and use up resources. It's not killing people fast enough. The problem with people starving is that you won't just be sitting back eating your primal popcorn substitute. Should it get to the point of disease and famine you'll be fighting to keep every scrap you hope to eat.
                        but honestly when that time comes I will be superman and they will be stay-puft. no contest...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Return of Dado
                          fuck fuck fuck fuck, i just can't read this bullshit anymore.

                          university took me 5 years instead of 4 (had a Real Major), and in that half-decade i've had just about enough of the horse shit you're spouting here, i've really had it up to here.

                          plz gtfo and stfu.
                          please explain, you see something here i am missing
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                          • #28
                            One way to save water is to stop pooping in it and flushing it down the toilet.

                            Anyway, I agree that it'll all get sorted out in the end. It's not going to be an enjoyable thing to participate in. It's not enjoyable right now, actually, as I personally believe the end has already begun.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by quelsen View Post
                              please explain, you see something here i am missing
                              He's crazy. And I'm not entirely certain he isn't a troll.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Return of Dado
                                yea everyone's crazy that doesn't want to play your stupid little games

                                you know i came here in 1992 and you're the exact person i grew to really dislike, the prissy white american, the fakest, ugliest man the planet has ever known.

                                it's really a pleasure for me to watch you lose your country, every time i blast my ethnic music in a white neighberhood, i get joy out of this.
                                No, you're crazy because you can't have a normal discussion. You go from 0-bugfuck in a split second. You really could use some help if this is really who you are.
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