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  • #16

    I saw this at Cabela's a couple weeks ago and picked up a box just because it made me laugh.
    Aside from that, I have quite the stockpile of basic first aid supplies, some iodine/aquamira, whitegas stove and extra fuel, headlamp with extra batteries, etc. And I'm not preparing for the apocalypse or a disaster, at all ... I just have this stuff because I'm a climber/backpacker/whatever. Though now that I think about it, it's interesting how basic outdoor skills would be immensely useful in a disaster situation (not apocalyptic) ... functional hobby ftw?
    Last edited by AmyMac703; 08-23-2012, 08:19 PM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lizzielou View Post
      Ha, I was going to post this exact thread earlier this week and hadn't gotten around to it. I like the idea of prepping, we recently had one of our major cities in NZ totally out of action due to a major earthquake so its something quite real for us at present.

      Some of my friends are stocked up with a years suply of wheat, rice, salt, sugar and the likes, and I think it only works if you are constantly using these items and replacing what you've used every month or so, that way it keeps fairly fresh. This to me is the major flaw of currently living primal, because in an emergency situation I won't care what I eat, but to cycle the stored food through with minimum of waste you'd need to eat it all regularly.

      I need to put together a bit more of a kit and I was going to focus on water stores, tinned products, powdered milk etc. I suppose coconut products would store well also, coconut cream in a tin, desicated coconut, coconut flour. EVOO kept in dark, airtight containers would probably last a while too. Oh and of course a years supply of dark chocolate would be the minimum for any household surely?

      Watching this thread with interest for other ideas.
      Glad I'm not the only one!

      Originally posted by Quarry View Post
      Lots of canned fish and vegetables. I am not sure I would be so concerned with optimal health in such a scenario. Besides, my teen sons get in a frenzy about World War Z if I mentioned anything that is remotely close to a survivalist situation. (World War Z is about the zombie holocaust...)
      Oh I know, I've read it. Though I'm not holding out for a zombie apocalypse, more to just be prepared for actual disasters that might happen - of which there are plenty to be worried about it . . . LOL.

      Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
      Check out Jack Spirko's podcast called (appropriately enough) The Survival Podcast. He's a prepper without falling into the "tin hat" insanity, and he's Paleo too. I found him when he had Mark on his podcast maybe as much as a year ago.
      Cool! I'll check him out! Thanks for the tip.
      Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
      I was in L.A. for both the Northridge Quake in 1994 (6.7 on the richter scale, major structural damage, no utilities for about a week, including water) and the L.A. Riots in 1992 (just... chaos, anarchy and mindless violence), so I totally understand.

      Also, I was laid off from my last job due to the bust in the real estate bubble, and now, 5 years later, I'm being laid off from a completely different job in a completely different industry due to new technology. Lesson learned? Even when you're a really valued employee, there is no guarantee that you will have a job (and a paycheck) next week. Prepping works for that, too.
      So true. I was in a similar position myself just 3 years ago. I had to go to a food bank because I had no food and no way to get any. It was a low point to be sure, and I was happy to be able to find a charity that could help out. (Which I've repaid since then - paying it forward, ya know?) . . . but you definitely can't always count on the charity of others.

      Originally posted by KimNKY View Post
      Totally agree! I love Doomsday Preppers for the trainwreck factor, but sometimes there are some really great ideas. Did you see the guy who raised tilapia in his pool and had the self sustaining ecosystem? That was really amazing to me just for the environmental factor.

      I've been home canning for a few years, and it doesn't necessarily need to involve sugar. Acidic things like tomatoes and many fruits can be preserved in just a boiling water bath without much special equipment. They don't necessarily need to be jams or salty pickles- I make pears preserved in spiced tea with just a little honey for sweetener. When you get into other vegetables without acid, or meat, then you need a pressure canner and it becomes more difficult to do safely.

      I do canning more for health and environmental reasons than preparing for the zombie apocalypse, but having that extra food stored away is a huge help when money is tight or you're snowed in and can't get to the store!
      Yes! That was spectacular! And really, one of the best to be ready for any such thing is to be self-sufficient as possible, and it's green too . . . which is really appealing to my inner homesteader.

      I don't think you have to be a foil hat wearing nut job to see the value in being self-sufficient and prepared for disasters. Even if those disasters are "just" wildfires and blizzards, not zombies and super volcanoes.
      Healthy Bucket List:
      • Summit all of Colorado's 14-ers
      • Hike the Appalachian Trail
      • Do a real pull-up
      • Run a 5k
      • Be "Hot For Training Camp"



      Check out my journey at Outdoor Amy's Blog.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
        I was in L.A. for both the Northridge Quake in 1994 (6.7 on the richter scale, major structural damage, no utilities for about a week, including water) and the L.A. Riots in 1992 (just... chaos, anarchy and mindless violence), so I totally understand.
        I was in L.A. visiting a friend when the Northridge quake happened. Yep. Those of us who live on to of the San Andreas fault need to be mindful of keeping some supplies on hand. Of course here in desert country, the limiting factor is water. If you stockpile enough of that you will probably be fine. I also keep firewood in the garage even though I rarely light my outdoor fire pit just to have a way of cooking stuff as it defrosts out of the freezer if the power goes out for a while. I also have a Coleman stove and keep water purification tablets and lots of batteries around. I have a little radio with a hand crank charger and a solar panel on it. That came in really handy last year when we had that blackout for most of a day and night. It was good to be able to get the updates on what was going on. Several of my neighbors came over and we sat around the radio taking turns cranking it. It turned into a block party.

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        • #19
          Keeping emergency supplies is just common sense. Water, food, home protection, etc.

          Being strong and physically fit is a major plus!

          I know it really hit home for me in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. People being herded like cattle, but behaving like sheep. You must be able to rely on yourself and your neighbors, not FEMA or any "agency".

          Be Prepared isn't for just the Boy Scouts anymore.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by AmyMac703 View Post

            I saw this at Cabela's a couple weeks ago and picked up a box just because it made me laugh.
            Aside from that, I have quite the stockpile of basic first aid supplies, some iodine/aquamira, whitegas stove and extra fuel, headlamp with extra batteries, etc. And I'm not preparing for the apocalypse or a disaster, at all ... I just have this stuff because I'm a climber/backpacker/whatever. Though now that I think about it, it's interesting how basic outdoor skills would be immensely useful in a disaster situation (not apocalyptic) ... functional hobby ftw?
            LOL! I saw those in the catalog. So funny!

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            • #21
              I believe most Mormons practice this. I had a coworker who was Mormon and she was always looking for deals on bottled water and things like that to put aside, just in case. When her husband was laid off and took a year to find work, they barely had to spend anything on groceries, because they were already prepared. Although there's a focus on a lot of crap, you'll find a lot of helpful tips as well for something like this from Mormon websites - I believe they call it "provident living"? At any rate, I think it's a good idea, provided you don't drive yourself crazy with it.

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              • #22
                You might also check out the pemmikan recipe on the main site here. That stuff will last nigh unto forever.
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                Initial Weight When Starting Primal: 275 lbs
                Current weight: 210.8 lbs
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by keithpowers View Post
                  You might also check out the pemmikan recipe on the main site here. That stuff will last nigh unto forever.
                  Will do. And LOL, nice description.

                  Interestingly, right after I posted this, I was listening to a paleo podcast and they talked about this very topic, so clearly other think about it . . . unfortunately they didn't have great answers - ya'll have been much more helpful!
                  Healthy Bucket List:
                  • Summit all of Colorado's 14-ers
                  • Hike the Appalachian Trail
                  • Do a real pull-up
                  • Run a 5k
                  • Be "Hot For Training Camp"



                  Check out my journey at Outdoor Amy's Blog.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                    I have a little radio with a hand crank charger and a solar panel on it. That came in really handy last year when we had that blackout for most of a day and night. It was good to be able to get the updates on what was going on. Several of my neighbors came over and we sat around the radio taking turns cranking it. It turned into a block party.
                    I've got one too, with all of the weather and regular stations, plus a USB port for charging stuff. Everyone kind of laughed at it, but then they all wanted to play with it. Pretty cool.
                    Durp.

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                    • #25
                      Interesting study done in Scandanavia after WWII found that people will starve themselves in preference to eating food that they are unfamiliar with, when in a stressful situation. What I took from that was that I need to make sure that the items in my emergency supplies are things I will enjoy.

                      My family likes salmon cakes, so canned salmon is the first thing I have started stockpiling.

                      We all love peanut butter, so although it is a legume, and I mostly eat almond butter now, peanut butter is part of my store because it will bring a smile to our faces.

                      My purchasing method is to buy double of one staple each time I go shopping. I keep one unit in my pantry, and put items on my shopping list when they are gone from the pantry, but rotate forward from the emergency stores after I buy. Slowly but surely, I am getting a good stock.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
                        I've got one too, with all of the weather and regular stations, plus a USB port for charging stuff. Everyone kind of laughed at it, but then they all wanted to play with it. Pretty cool.
                        A hand crank and/or solar powered emergency radio with built in compass and flashlight is on my wish list - It would be so handy for backwoods camping/hiking, for power outages and all of that.

                        Originally posted by Sabine View Post
                        Interesting study done in Scandanavia after WWII found that people will starve themselves in preference to eating food that they are unfamiliar with, when in a stressful situation. What I took from that was that I need to make sure that the items in my emergency supplies are things I will enjoy.

                        My family likes salmon cakes, so canned salmon is the first thing I have started stockpiling.

                        We all love peanut butter, so although it is a legume, and I mostly eat almond butter now, peanut butter is part of my store because it will bring a smile to our faces.

                        My purchasing method is to buy double of one staple each time I go shopping. I keep one unit in my pantry, and put items on my shopping list when they are gone from the pantry, but rotate forward from the emergency stores after I buy. Slowly but surely, I am getting a good stock.
                        I seem to remember hearing something similar before myself. And having comfort foods can also make a stressful situation less stressful . . . (which makes me wonder how long dark chocolate will keep . . . yummy!)

                        That is a good plan for building a stock. Eventually like to have 3-6 months worth of food put by in case of losing income due to layoff, financial instability or natural disaster . . . my ultimate goal is to have a self-sufficient farm on a handful of acres. It would allow me (and the family I hope to share it with) to not only eat very healthfully now, but to have a more stable source of food in case something bad ever does happen.

                        Does anyone coupon? I tried, but found I wasn't getting my money worth (in regards to time and newspaper purchases) on a primal diet because so many coupons are just for processed, boxed foods with wheat and/or HFCS in them. So if you do coupon, what is your source to get your money's worth?

                        Also - how long does coconut oil keep? Does anyone know? I'm guessing pretty long . . .

                        I've read that rubbing oil on eggs can increase their shelf life up to a year (esp. if kept in a cool dark place, like a fridge or root cellar) because it blocks the air from permeating the porous shell. I've yet to try it - but at least eggs let you know pretty well if they've gone bad.
                        Healthy Bucket List:
                        • Summit all of Colorado's 14-ers
                        • Hike the Appalachian Trail
                        • Do a real pull-up
                        • Run a 5k
                        • Be "Hot For Training Camp"



                        Check out my journey at Outdoor Amy's Blog.

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                        • #27
                          My husbands super "preparanoid", a word we coined for prepper/paranoid, and he keeps wanting to buy canned food. I don't like to eat canned food for obvious reasons... My plans is to learn to can meat, anyone do that? We've got a freezer crammed full with two pigs we just butchered, are planning to kill several deer here in a month or so, plus have a Jersey bull that needs to die in the next few months as well. We also live out in the middle of nowhere and loose electricity fairly often, which means bad luck for freezers. Veggies are easy to can, not that I've done that enough, it was just too hot to can this summer, but I'm not sure about meat.

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                          • #28
                            I haven't done it yet, but I have a book that shows how to can meat so I know you can. For foodstorage right now I am buying lots of tuna and some other fish like salmon. One of the fun things about Paleo is trying new things. Turns out I love kippered herring.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by lexie View Post
                              I believe most Mormons practice this. I had a coworker who was Mormon and she was always looking for deals on bottled water and things like that to put aside, just in case. When her husband was laid off and took a year to find work, they barely had to spend anything on groceries, because they were already prepared. Although there's a focus on a lot of crap, you'll find a lot of helpful tips as well for something like this from Mormon websites - I believe they call it "provident living"? At any rate, I think it's a good idea, provided you don't drive yourself crazy with it.
                              You are right. I was with the Latter-day Saints for 19 years, and they do food storage for a lot of reasons. It is a tenet of the faith and culture to be prepared for times of lean, no matter who/what/how they happen. I have a partial one and it is awesome to not worry immediately about fighting folks at the grocery store in the teeth of something nasty.

                              You need to make this an extension of your kitchen cupboards. One of the first things they teach is that you only store what you actually use and eat, so even tho the Mormons are big into grains and grain grinders and such, no two food stashes will look the same. What you do not know is that the LDS have local canneries - they have access to professional food canning equipment - as in s/steel cans of all the different sizes, along with nitrogen-pack equipment and such, so members can actually "can" their own beef stew and all that - they take this so seriously that they have spent the money to make this available to their members. And not only food goes into cans - dry pet food is also canned, as cans are mouse-proof.

                              They also put needs into different "tiers", as in 1. a 72-hour kit if you need to bail from your property and 2. storage if you can remain at home. Starting from zero and looking at the one-year-needs list is daunting. My suggestion is to work up from 7 days to 2 weeks, to 1 month, to 3 months, to 6 months, and then double that. By then you should have a good grip on a lot of things.

                              Also - do a dry run. Do not grocery shop for 7 days and see what is problematic. The LDS also incorporate the food storage into the weekly diet at the sell-by dates get close, so there is no waste.

                              I bought 2 fifty-gallon drinking water barrels with pumps during my time there, and that was the best deal ever.
                              I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                              • #30
                                I live in NW Washington state and here winter storms can be problematic. We get arctic storms with hurricane force winds and temps in the single digits, not every year but frequently enough to make it a consideration. It is not unusual to have power knocked out for up to a week in very frigid temperatures. Neither gas(electonic ignition) nor electric heat work. I grew up with the assumption that there should be at least a months worth of food in the house if not two or three. Growing up in a farming community canning, freezing, dehydrating and pickling are all part the normal way things are done. I do medieval historical re-enactment and have the camping gear associated with that so cooking and lighting in an emercency are not a problem and the kids are already familiar with the safety rules associated with candle lanterns and propane stoves. If I had to leave home in an emergency my gear is a lot more solid and durable than standard camp gear and I'm well practiced at packing it. Part of the fun of my re-enactment is figuring out ways to make food that doesn't require refridgeration and is still yummy while camping. I'm not a prepper as such, but putting food by was just a normal part of growing up for me. I think a water filtration device is probably most needful to add to our gear at the moment.

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