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  • #16
    I find fat women a lot more attractive than paleo women with low body fat (<20). I assure you that Grok would feel the same. But, of course, I see overweight women and I wish I could steer them to primal.
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    • #17
      If you think the women in the Dove Beauty Campaign are fat asses, I feel sorry for you.

      I hate that we have 1. a definition of beauty that only includes the VS model. And then we start thinking a healthy female body is fat. To me it looks like every last one of the Dove women is healthy. None of them have flabby stomachs. They all have some tone to their legs. None of them would have made the "fat lady" podium back in 1900.

      Both of these companies are pushing destructive habits for women. Just lift some heavy shit and eat a steak!
      Probably most of the women here that eat steak and lift heavy things LOOK like the dove models. Those ripped fitness models are not normal women following Primal Blueprint. They are either very lucky genetically or work very hard to stay leaner than a woman's body wants to be.

      Women have body fat and curve to their ass, thighs and hips in many/most cases.

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      • #18
        Fat women are treated like complete and total shit in the US. I for one would rather see some fat pride than watch these women be bullied in to hiding in their homes.
        I agree. I am treated BETTER and better the smaller I get. I can accept the lack of men desiring me sexually as a fat woman. Truly, their choice and I find fat men to be not sexually attractive. But wow, get down to a size 12 and I get sexual attention. So.... really guys will go for the Dove beauities as readily as the VS models.

        But what gets me now is better treatment professionally, by store clerks, no one glares at my groceries any more. People talk to me, sit near me and al in all treat me like someone they want to be around. At 250-300lbs that was not the case.

        Yeah, people should be healthy. But people with health issues such as smoking, drinking, drug use, lack of activity, poor diets (but thin).... don't face the discrimination fat people, particularly women do.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jammies View Post
          It is the pendulum swinging the other way - finally. Fat women have been told that they are worthless and unlovable simply because they are fat - and in spite of whatever other amazing contributions they may make to this world. So now they are reclaiming it and saying screw everyone - I WILL love myself. For now that is manifesting as loving the "curves". Ultimately the happy middle ground should be reached where someone can say I am overweight, that is less than ideal for my health, but I am still as valuable a human being as the next person.

          Fat women are treated like complete and total shit in the US. I for one would rather see some fat pride than watch these women be bullied in to hiding in their homes.
          Well yeah, exactly! I think "fat pride" and "fat acceptance" can be a little dangerous... BUT I think it's awesome that overweight/obese women can start to feel good about themselves because they ARE worthwhile contributors to society - not because of their weight, but because of themselves. We are NOT our bodies! We are so much more than that!! Too many overweight women have been hated on for too long, and overlooked as "Lazy and worthless" when that's often far from the case. Fat women (and fat PEOPLE in general) should be treated with the same respect as those of normal weight

          On the other hand, I do feel it's slightly dangerous... in that in recent years I've seen more and more young women embrace their overweight selves and I DO worry that it contributes to ill health. Sure they're not feeling the need to cover and hide each and every bulge (as my friends and I did back in the 80s/90s when we were growing up). These new generation of girls will wear short skirts and crop tops and not care about the fat tummies and thighs! Gosh, I can't imagine being like that. I had a BMI of 20 and thought I was too fat to show any skin LOL. So on one side, I'm glad young women are feeling more free to be themselves despite being larger BUT I worry about their future health.

          I wish the'd all find paleo/primal eating and learn healthy ways to lose weight that won't leave them miserable and deprived! Not to get to some "skinny" ideal, but just to lose some of the excess and get to a healthy BMI with good muscle tone etc.

          So I guess... I see the positives as well as the negatives. I'm glad so many young women DON'T have the hangups I had as a completely not overweight young woman who thought she was too "fat" cause she had big thighs and a tummy that wasn't flat. I thought I looked gross cause my body wasn't that of a model in magazines, and that no man could ever hope to love me because he'd freak out at the sight of my fat (yup, serious issues there...)

          I also think it's maybe better to be a little overweight and content and happy, than forever dieting and suffering to try to maintain an "ideal" figure (but obviously doing it all wrong and affecting one's health in the meantime).

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          • #20
            Wow, a picture does tell a thousand words..to illustrate the change a century can impart. It shocked me to consider what is now not-unusual, was considered freakish. Just wow.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kenn View Post
              Another fat haters thread?
              Yeah. Prepare for long and torturously-written justifications oozing fake concern for other people's health.

              By the way, anybody who thinks the women in the Dove ads are fat has to be a 15 year old boy or a 15 year old boy trapped in a man's body because the Victoria's Secret ads are like 15 year old boys with boobs.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                If you think the women in the Dove Beauty Campaign are fat asses, I feel sorry for you.

                I hate that we have 1. a definition of beauty that only includes the VS model. And then we start thinking a healthy female body is fat. To me it looks like every last one of the Dove women is healthy. None of them have flabby stomachs. They all have some tone to their legs. None of them would have made the "fat lady" podium back in 1900.



                Probably most of the women here that eat steak and lift heavy things LOOK like the dove models. Those ripped fitness models are not normal women following Primal Blueprint. They are either very lucky genetically or work very hard to stay leaner than a woman's body wants to be.

                Women have body fat and curve to their ass, thighs and hips in many/most cases.
                I was going to say something like this last night but didn't feel like getting into it. I fully agree. The Dove models look strong, like they could do heavy work, carry a child, put a serious beat-down on you if need be. The VS models look like they'd have a hard time doing much of anything. I realize that some people are just naturally very thin. I had a friend that ate like a horse and couldn't gain weight, but she was wiry and strong, worked on cars, spent summers in Alaska in a salmon canning plant. Seriously, she was bad ass. So being thin doesn't automatically mean weak and fragile, but the VS women, especially numbers 1 and 4, look starved and unhealthy.
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                • #23
                  The guy in the first link according to the link was 525 pounds at 19. The second link is of a person who according to Wiki was 442 pounds. He married his fellow 'circus freak' who weighed in at 570. While society is getting more obese most people are a far cry from 500+ pounds. Sure, those people exist, but they are far from the norm. Even if a quick web search is correct and it is 2 million in the US who are 500+ pounds (more than I expected to be honest) that is still <1% So not on the level of uniqueness of a circus freak but still not the norm.

                  Also fat women are real women. They are not fake. Also they have curves. Hell, I have a fat roll on my stomach and it curves very well. It curves far better than the wash board abs some dudes are sporting.

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                  • #24
                    I won't trust those reported weights from 100 years ago. Circuses would also lie about stuff like that.
                    Would I be putting a grain-feed cow on a fad diet if I took it out of the feedlot and put it on pasture eating the grass nature intended?

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                    • #25
                      They all look pretty hot to me. (The models; I haven't looked at the freaks 'cuz Mama told me not to stare at the afflicted. heh)
                      "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                        Sure, those people exist, but they are far from the norm. Even if a quick web search is correct and it is 2 million in the US who are 500+ pounds (more than I expected to be honest).....
                        Jesus.

                        That's a city the size of Houston right there.
                        Last edited by Legbiter; 08-07-2012, 08:27 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Legbiter View Post
                          Jesus.

                          That's a city the size of Houston right there.
                          Agreed, it is a lot of people.

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                          • #28
                            The only thing I don't get about fat pride I've observed is if you love yourself so much why don't you stop eating shit and maybe prepare yourself a salad.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                              Agreed, it is a lot of people.
                              It's less than .67% percent of the pop tho
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by kenn View Post
                                It's less than .67% percent of the pop tho
                                Understood. I mentioned that in my other post. .67% or not 2 million is a lot of people. It was like when we were deployed "Only 1% of the population is radicalized and wants to kill you" well, great but that is still hundreds of thousands of people that want to kill me.

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