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  • Hey onalark, about ^^ and your previous posts about this, are you saying our PMs are not private and mods can read them, or do you mean only if someone raises it with a mod? Curious, as I have always assumed private messages are private, even if it is someone else's forum.

    Not that I do anything wrong, just nice to know!

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    • Originally posted by Quarry View Post
      Hey onalark, about ^^ and your previous posts about this, are you saying our PMs are not private and mods can read them, or do you mean only if someone raises it with a mod? Curious, as I have always assumed private messages are private, even if it is someone else's forum.

      Not that I do anything wrong, just nice to know!
      please do not make the error of the young and think that the interwebs is for privacy.

      Nothing electronic is private... nothing. it can all be gotten to... the masters just have to want to look

      and YES admins and mods can read your traffic and if they are doing a good job for the forum they have automatic monitors that search each message heuristically to flag for offensive or banned topics. such tools are rather cheap and extremely good at what they do.

      ps. your cell phone is also being monitored. don't believe otherwise. most of the time big brother just doesnt give a flying frak about your last 10 booty calls.
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      • Originally posted by quelsen View Post
        please do not make the error of the young and think that the interwebs is for privacy.

        Nothing electronic is private... nothing. it can all be gotten to... the masters just have to want to look

        and YES admins and mods can read your traffic and if they are doing a good job for the forum they have automatic monitors that search each message heuristically to flag for offensive or banned topics. such tools are rather cheap and extremely good at what they do.

        ps. your cell phone is also being monitored. don't believe otherwise. most of the time big brother just doesnt give a flying frak about your last 10 booty calls.
        You are dead on dude. I help with lawful intercept all the time and I see all sorts of shit that people think is private. If you want something to be private, do NOT store it on a computer or record it (audio or video). We have teams of people that can get into all sorts of shit that you didn't think anyone had access to.
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        • Originally posted by IcarianVX View Post
          You are dead on dude. I help with lawful intercept all the time and I see all sorts of shit that people think is private. If you want something to be private, do NOT store it on a computer or record it (audio or video). We have teams of people that can get into all sorts of shit that you didn't think anyone had access to.

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          • Originally posted by Quarry View Post
            Hey onalark, about ^^ and your previous posts about this, are you saying our PMs are not private and mods can read them, or do you mean only if someone raises it with a mod? Curious, as I have always assumed private messages are private, even if it is someone else's forum.

            Not that I do anything wrong, just nice to know!
            PMs are not private. As a forum moderator, I could easily access the database and run a query that pulled up everyone's private messages, and I'd be willing to guess that nowadays forum software just has an interface for it.

            That said, I rarely did this, and only with just cause. But on occasion we had someone come along whose private messages needed to be tracked because they were harassing someone or using our forums for criminal behavior (yes, really) or threatening to commit suicide and the person they were PMing was terrified and wanted us to intervene. It happens. It sucks. It's a pain in the ass to do the research and make the call. It's why I'm not volunteering to be a mod here.

            Also note that private messages you send in any chat system -- including games (i.e., /sends and whispers) -- are probably being logged and visible to the staff. As a GM on an old MUD, I had access to all the private "whispers" our users would exchange. Which was usually cybersex stuff. Ugh.

            And what Quelsen said. As someone who has managed these types of systems, I am all too aware that private messages are not private. I am not a paranoid person, but when I have something intensely private to say to someone, I will arrange to speak to them person-to-person, not online, not in text.
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            • Fascinating stuff here but I knew most of it already. I don't mention anything in emails, PMs, even computer work/docs that I'm not OK to be seen by other eyes/Big Brother.

              And regarding Darth, I've read accounts of where he really crossed the line so I no longer feel I need to know exactly what he did to get banned nor do I feel sad about the ban.
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              • This privacy convo is making my forum tourettes very hard to control


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                • Thanks for responses. That is freaking scary. I confess I have had a little cyberlovin and graphic talk with another member, on a different forum, by PM. Now I am bright red and too scared to go back just thinking tge mods couldda been reading it! moreso if random members gained mod privileges. Oh no!
                  I imagine Mark has got better things to do but still ... if anyone was thinking of gettin jiggy with me..


                  I think the server at work these days actually stores texts on work blackberry too, not just the emails that marry up with work computer. So increased communication by electronic means but it is all trackable and stored. hmm

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                  • Originally posted by Quarry View Post
                    Thanks for responses. That is freaking scary. I confess I have had a little cyberlovin and graphic talk with another member, on a different forum, by PM. Now I am bright red and too scared to go back just thinking tge mods couldda been reading it! moreso if random members gained mod privileges. Oh no!
                    I imagine Mark has got better things to do but still ... if anyone was thinking of gettin jiggy with me..


                    I think the server at work these days actually stores texts on work blackberry too, not just the emails that marry up with work computer. So increased communication by electronic means but it is all trackable and stored. hmm
                    I wouldn't worry about it too much. You're not the first person to have done it, you won't be the last, and unless you were reeeeeeally creative with what you said, no one is going to care too much. Getting training on AOL back in the day opened my eyes to some of the craaaazy stuff that people do in chat rooms and private messages. But honestly, I've heard worse described on Dan Savage's podcast. It is almost impossible to be a prude about this stuff when you're a mod.

                    A reasonable forum with trustworthy mods probably won't read your PMs anyway unless they have cause to. I'm sure they have better things to do.

                    But if you're really worried about it, then stop it. Switch to a very public IM program, because they get so much traffic it's almost impossible to monitor them. And don't feel too bad about it. So long as everyone's consenting and of age, it's no big deal.
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                    • Originally posted by quelsen View Post
                      ps. your cell phone is also being monitored. don't believe otherwise. most of the time big brother just doesnt give a flying frak about your last 10 booty calls.
                      This made me snicker, not because I don't think pretty much everything can be monitored - I do - but because it reminded me of a conversation with a person in one of the older neighborhoods. We have smart meters here, and he kept a shirt draped over his. Why?

                      "Because there's a camera inside and they can watch me!"
                      "Sir, no offense, I mean, I know you're quite interesting, but the power company really doesn't give a rat's ass about what you do every day."
                      "Oh, I know! But the FEDS do!"

                      Okay. Gotta go.
                      Durp.

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