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  • #91
    Originally posted by Jen AlcesAlces View Post
    I'm in Lander WY - kind of central WY, near the Wind River Range. People here, especially the women, are soooo different from other places I've lived. THey are quite independent, fun and active without the cattiness I've seen elsewhere.
    ah, so around 6 hours away. i think western women are a bit different than most elsewhere, though i'm not sure why.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
      i also really, really like sex, which is weird for most women. or so i hear!!
      I'm pretty sure that most people really really like sex. There may be some with previous bad experiences, but that's not a guarantee of future disappointment.

      And was I the only person reading the thread title who misinterpreted it to mean "are you one of those women who is completely straight"?
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Indiscreet View Post
        I'm with you there - I hate talking on the phone. If my phone rings I dread picking it up in case it's bad news (quite likely now, actually, as my mum's on the exit ramp).
        sorry to hear about your mom.


        magicmerl- amazingly, no i didn't catch that.
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        • #94
          Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
          they have more special requests and tip less than men.
          Not to derail the thread, but I'm pretty sure everyone on this board can sympathize with/understand having special requests when ordering food at restaurants.
          Subduction leads to orogeny

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
            ah, so around 6 hours away. i think western women are a bit different than most elsewhere, though i'm not sure why.
            Mom really encouraged me to move West because "Every woman I've met from out there I think you'd get along with." I think, though, that I need to move further out in the country or something. I'm living near too many women that aren't really local to the area
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            • #96
              the women are maddeningly indecisive and all have to talk about how "not" hungry they are.
              Eating with a group of women is from hell.

              Men just eat. I cook, men eat. Men enjoy. If men like deviled eggs, they eat a dozen and tell me how good they are. If women like the food, it's an hour long apology for eating. "Oh god, I just should not have this XXX."

              I think women just care too much what other people think. Truly, if you order a steak and enjoy it and say "yum".... I'm not judging you to be a fat tub of lard. It's actually less annoying if you don't justify food choices. Just eat the damn food.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                Eating with a group of women is from hell.

                Men just eat. I cook, men eat. Men enjoy. If men like deviled eggs, they eat a dozen and tell me how good they are. If women like the food, it's an hour long apology for eating. "Oh god, I just should not have this XXX."

                I think women just care too much what other people think. Truly, if you order a steak and enjoy it and say "yum".... I'm not judging you to be a fat tub of lard. It's actually less annoying if you don't justify food choices. Just eat the damn food.
                huh, when my friends and i go out to eat, other than "what's primal" the only other food talk is "oh that looks fabulous!" we all love to eat and make no apologies for it.
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                • #98
                  Count me in. I'm married with three kids but I'm not exactly a girly girl. I hate working in a workplace where most of my coworkers are female. I hate the drama and don't give a rat's backside who did what to whom and who is dating who. I'm more into camping and hiking and my hobbies. I almost never wear makeup or dress up except for the historical re-enactment I do. While I do needlework and weaving, I also do bone carving and wood work and metal work. It doesn't help much that my voice is in the contralto range and get mistaken for a guy by my speaking voice. I belch with the best of them-partly because if I don't I will have a stomachache. That has dramatically improved with my not eating non-cultured dairy(lactose intolerant). I do have a very girly hourglass figure-at least when I still had something resembling a figure. I dress neat and clean but prepared to work hard for the most part. On the other hand most sports bore me to tears. I enjoy sports where I can participate such as archery and other mostly solo sports. Mostly I'm an independent sort that does what I enjoy and don't really worry or care what anyone else thinks.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Artichoke View Post
                    I don't have anything in common with most women, no kids (stepdaughter lives in USA), I am interested in DIY and interior decoration but most women I've met aren't concerned with more than a huge telly and an expensive looking kitchen. I love to cook whereas many women are just shovelling junk food in their brats.

                    I get along so easily with blokes - I can talk Formula One, tennis and football (soccer), gardening, action adventure movies, politics, baseball, fishing..
                    i don't know if you were just describing what you like to do, or describing what you like to do which is not considered feminine, but AFAIK in the US the parts i bolded are considered feminine. I just thought it was interesting from a cultural POV.
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                    • huh, when my friends and i go out to eat, other than "what's primal" the only other food talk is "oh that looks fabulous!" we all love to eat and make no apologies for it.
                      So jealous. My office is the worst. All women. It's like a contest for who can feel guiltiest for what is being eaten. You'd think we had hired male prostitutes on "birthday cake" day.

                      Some of my girlfriends are cool, but some are from hell. AND I LOVE MY SISTER IN LAW! She enjoys eating whatever crosses her plate.

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                      • Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
                        Mom really encouraged me to move West because "Every woman I've met from out there I think you'd get along with." I think, though, that I need to move further out in the country or something. I'm living near too many women that aren't really local to the area
                        Front range =/= the West ... at least not anymore. Too many damn Californian transplants yuppifying our shit up =P
                        Though I'd rather live there than ... anywhere east of there. Check out the western slope of Colorado (Gunnison, Paonia, Montrose, Ouray, etc) and you'll definitely find some real mountain women.
                        And I loudly echo the statements about women out west being different/less stereotypically feminine by others on this thread -- I'd argue that it's partially due to the culture of the American West being defined by a rugged sense of independence, self-sufficiency, and a personal connection to the natural world. At least, it is in my rather romanticized vision of it But seriously, out here? No one gives a crap about the latest episode of "Sex and the City" or whatever it is women watch these days, because it has absolutely nothing to do with our lives. We live our lives -- not someone else's.
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                        • Well, I can tell you that I am still in awe of all the long, gray hair I see out here. Back east, once you hit a certain age, it gets whacked off at the very least and probably dyed. Heaven forbid you be FEMALE and GRAY!

                          I do still have a lot of places to see out here, so the western slope will go on the to-do list
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                          Originally Posted by TheFastCat: Less is more more or less

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                          • Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
                            Well, I can tell you that I am still in awe of all the long, gray hair I see out here. Back east, once you hit a certain age, it gets whacked off at the very least and probably dyed. Heaven forbid you be FEMALE and GRAY!
                            My mom is in her late 40s and stopped dyeing her hair a few years ago. I applauded her so hard for finally embracing her real hair. She went grey in her late 20s and had been fighting it all these years.

                            My doctor has the prettiest hair ever, though. It's this beautiful, stunning silver, straight as a board, and she has a super angular A-line bob. It looks soooo good.

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                            • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                              Originally posted by Artichoke
                              I don't have anything in common with most women, no kids (stepdaughter lives in USA), I am interested in DIY and interior decoration but most women I've met aren't concerned with more than a huge telly and an expensive looking kitchen. I love to cook whereas many women are just shovelling junk food in their brats.

                              I get along so easily with blokes - I can talk Formula One, tennis and football (soccer), gardening, action adventure movies, politics, baseball, fishing..Artichoke View Post
                              i don't know if you were just describing what you like to do, or describing what you like to do which is not considered feminine, but AFAIK in the US the parts i bolded are considered feminine.
                              I'm not sure about that. First, I took "DIY" and "interior decoration" to be two separate things -- though I admit the context was a bit ambiguous. At any rate, I would say that "DIY" has a somewhat more masculine than feminine connotation.

                              As far as cooking goes, I've been trying to figure this one out for quite some time. My conclusion is that food preparation has traditionally been more of a feminine pursuit, but more recently -- let's say in the last 20 years -- the balance has shifted and it's now much more gender-neutral. Not only in popular culture (consider all the well-known male chefs heading famous restaurants or hosting TV cooking shows), but also in everyday life. Granted, I'm not a social butterfly and consequently my observations could be a bit insular, but at my household and a (narrow) majority of my friends' households, the husband or boyfriend is either the primary cook or shares the meal-preparation responsibility. I think there's also a big generational component to this; I don't know a lot of men in their 50's or beyond who do much cooking, but I know many in their 30's and 40's who do. Finally, I suppose that my sample is probably skewed by having a lot of friends who are very conscious of food quality and have taken a keen interest in finding and preparing healthy foods. You know, primal/paleo folk.

                              As for tennis, I've never considered it to be more feminine than masculine. I suppose some might see it as "less manly" than some other sports, but I think it's mostly considered a gender-neutral sport. If anything it has an historical "gentleman's game" bias toward masculinity.

                              And I definitely disagree that gardening is a feminine activity. In my world the number of hobbyist gardeners -- and notably, the folks selling produce at the farmer's markets -- approach a 2:1 ratio of male:female.

                              I agree that the perceptions about the gendered-ness of occupations and activities vary significantly across cultures, and apparently even across small geographical differences within what might otherwise be considered a monoculture.

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                              • I realized that I never really answered the question on my own post! I don't actively dislike women, it just happens that I get along with men better and have more male friends. The female friends I do have are either "tomboys," artists, writers, musicians, or comedians. I'm bi, and have a few lesbian friends, but have more gay and straight male friends. I wear make-up, I like cooking, and styling my hair. But I also enjoy hiking, fighting, writing, reading, rocking out on the mic, swearing, sex... None of these things can be defined as belonging to one sex or the other, necessarily. I think, really, I hate as equally as I love. If you're boring and vapid, male or female, I tend to avoid you.

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