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  • #16
    If you were using logic, you wouldn't resort to a strawman, would you?

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    • #17
      where's the strawman in my argument? i'm simply pointing out that there are other explanations and we don't have enough information to judge.
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      • #18
        Saoirse, the only one stating the pov you're arguing against was a troll and it worked well
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
          where's the strawman in my argument? i'm simply pointing out that there are other explanations and we don't have enough information to judge.
          Only after editing your entire post, except keeping the one snarky comment accusing me of claiming "women are just lazy bitches". Which, if you haven't noticed, is a strawman; the remander of your post is apologetic. Women are more inactive across the world, and while it's as fallacious to assume it's solely due to slothfulness, it's no more so than to assume it's due to women being hyperproductive workers and childcare machines. The crux of your argument is "Well, women are only more inactive because men don't do housework", which we both know modern men rarely get away with.

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          • #20
            lighten up figlio, it was a joke. honestly, i don't think anyone really knows how much or little housework men do. the rest of my post wasn't apologetic so much as explaining my thoughts on the matter. if you find it apologetic, maybe that means we agree!

            the link title is: "A map of sloth." My post was pointing out that the title is a bit misleading. A person could work all day and most of the night while still being considered "inactive" by the definition given. It's only a map showing the amount of moderate exercise different nations have on average. To me, moderate exercise is a luxury. It would be awesome if I could get out 5 times a week, 30 min at a time to play ultimate frisbee, take dance or martial arts lessons, or go for a jog (though that would kill my knees). I don't have that luxury, but it doesn't make me a sloth.

            BTW:
            The crux of your argument is "Well, women are only more inactive because men don't do housework", which we both know modern men rarely get away with.
            maybe you know that, but it isn't consistent with my personal experience. out of the 9 years i have been married, my husband is only now starting to help a little with housework. among my friends and acquaintances, this varies quite widely.

            btw, i never addressed you directly, so why would you assume my comment was directed to you when you never said anything about women=lazy?
            Last edited by Saoirse; 07-21-2012, 09:55 PM.
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            • #21
              I wonder where these statisticians get their data. I occasionally do surveys online and am asked whether I do any sports at the moment. The answer is currently 'no'. I am constantly running around after two small children. I walk three miles to the shops pushing a pram on a regular basis and only ever sit down to eat. I have never had a weight problem and since adopting a more Grok like diet I have really struggled to maintain my weight. The person interpreting the data however would have no way of knowing this as the questioning is ineffective.

              Just to confuse things even further, while there is a link between inactivitiy and obesity, the two are not synonymous. Many women eat portion sizes that enable them to maintain their body weight however much or little exercise they get. To put it bluntly, and at risk of upsetting men, you hardly ever see a skinny guy with an overweight woman, but you often see a skinny woman with an overweight guy.

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              • #22
                If it's based on a survey it may simply indicate which people tend to overestimate how much exercise they do. I know a few people who like to boast about how hard they work and I sometimes wonder whether it's all lies and they secretly get paid for sitting around!

                It's interesting that Britain is one of the lazy countries. Is that because we're genuinely lazy? Or is it because many of us consider walking a mile to the shops and back as 'errands' and wouldn't count it as exercise?

                I wouldn't say I'm very active, I go for a jog once a week and perhaps do just enough daily activity to pass the minimum. However, I don't drive so I walk everywhere, I do all the household chores (since my OH works 12 hour shifts), including carrying lots of groceries home from the supermarket.

                I could easily be twice as active as someone else who considers themselves moderately active, when actually they drive everywhere, delegate tasks to family members, and drive to the gym twice a week to do non-challenging 'cardio'.
                Last edited by CaveWeirdo; 07-22-2012, 06:45 AM.
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                Current weight: 205 lbs (July 2012)
                Loss so far: 33 lbs!!!
                WOE: Primal + IF
                Movements: Hiking, sprinting.
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                • #23
                  Well you can argue all you like but that map proves I'm surounded by lazy feckers
                  You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by happytummy View Post
                    To put it bluntly, and at risk of upsetting men, you hardly ever see a skinny guy with an overweight woman, but you often see a skinny woman with an overweight guy.
                    Where, on sitcoms? I see busted-ass women with way fitter men all the time.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Figlio di Moros View Post
                      Where, on sitcoms? I see busted-ass women with way fitter men all the time.
                      I do too. Most of the time, couples match each other in weight, but not always. I usually assume a woman is larger than her male other half because she has had children and struggled taking off the weight, but maybe that's an erroneous assumption. I also see women who are fit coupled with men who are overweight. People sometimes have different priorities, even when they're married.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by CaveWeirdo View Post
                        It's interesting that Britain is one of the lazy countries. Is that because we're genuinely lazy? Or is it because many of us consider walking a mile to the shops and back as 'errands' and wouldn't count it as exercise?
                        Totally agree with you there CaveWeirdo. BTW how do you get your stats up at the end of a post? And what does WOE mean?

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                        • #27
                          Are things really so different in the US?

                          I've never seen a big woman with a leaner male with the exception of a couple I used to know. The poor things got stared at by the bumpkins wherever they went - it was a pretty unusual sight.

                          Originally posted by Figlio di Moros View Post
                          Where, on sitcoms? I see busted-ass women with way fitter men all the time.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by happytummy View Post
                            Totally agree with you there CaveWeirdo. BTW how do you get your stats up at the end of a post? And what does WOE mean?
                            WOE- way of eating

                            CaveWeirdo put his stats in his signature. i don't remember exactly how to do this, but if you poke around under the link "my settings" you should see "edit my signature" on the left hand side.
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