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  • #46
    Originally posted by Noctiluca View Post
    Plus I kinda felt like I needed to take that responsibility if I was going to eat meat.
    This is what is driving me to consider killing my own meat. I really didn't have these thoughts much before going Primal, but it has started to work on me that if I am going to go with a WOE that is solidly meat-based, I need to take this to its logical conclusion. Perhaps not for all my meat supply, but at least once.

    Before Primal, going meatless didn't bother me. In truth, it still doesn't. I know it is possible to survive and even live decently well flesh-less because I did it for 8 years, so if there is no meat in the house, I don't stress at all. Grok, too, had meatless periods. But in going Primal, I wanted the fat-adaptation, and I don't see any way to do that with REAL foods without flesh. So that brings me back to feeling like I need to face a live cow, pig or deer.
    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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    • #47
      Originally posted by JBailey View Post
      We just brought home this year's piggies. They'll be going to freezer camp in November, after enjoying all kinds of garden goodness like squash and apples and corn, along with their rations.
      Your pic isn't okayed yet, but I wanted to say that you are making me hungry. Pork and apples and squash...

      'Round here, the locals like to call their pigs by interesting names. Last two my sister-in-law had: "Pork"... and - "Chop".

      Last year's two pigs of a relative of a relative: "Breakfast"... and - "Bacon"
      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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      • #48
        It's a hard thing, not easy. People who kill without thought or with joy are ignorant, cruel and out of touch with life itself. I've hunted and butchered animals my whole life and never feel "good" about it. It is something that is natural, though. It takes us closer to the circle of life, instead of outside of it where most ignorant killers or mindless consumers live. So, I recommend that you do explore it. Do it with compassion and thanksgiving in your heart, knowing that you yourself will someday be food for something else. Say a special prayer or some words to the creature afterwards. My nine year old son has learned to thank the animal for it's life and that whatever he kills, he eats. Try to find a compassionate, mindful hunter to learn from. Practice butchering on roadkills, knowing that you're doing the animal a service by not letting it's life go to waste. Maybe start with small game like rabbits or squirrels or fish. Turkeys are good but difficult to hunt sometimes. If guns are not your thing, get a longbow or recurve and go at it. Bows are where it's at. I also recommend a couple of books by guys who are compassionate, spiritual hunters: HEARTSBLOOD: HUNTING, SPIRITUALITY AND WILDNESS IN AMERICA by David Peterson and BLOODTIES: NATURE, CULTURE AND THE HUNT by Ted Kerasote

        Hope this helped.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
          Your pic isn't okayed yet, but I wanted to say that you are making me hungry. Pork and apples and squash...

          'Round here, the locals like to call their pigs by interesting names. Last two my sister-in-law had: "Pork"... and - "Chop".

          Last year's two pigs of a relative of a relative: "Breakfast"... and - "Bacon"
          Our last pigs were Patty and Link. This year it's BB and Q.
          Seven Trees Farm - diversified subsistence farming on 1.25 acres.

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          • #50
            We name our pigs after political figures we don't like. The steers tend to be lunch, dinner, sirloin.....one time my daughter named a bull calf after her ex-boyfriend, cause we were gonna castrate it. That calf got traded for a pair of piglets----had really good bloodlines from a WV dairy---and she was SO mad.......

            If you have a cow, you can feed the pigs whey/spoilt milk, and if you soak their grain in it, they love it. My pigs tended to eat leftover wheat from 1972 or so----I had about a ton of it from someone's food storage that moved.

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            • #51
              I've thought about raising some pigs also, but have been told that their waste is horrible. For those of you raising pigs, do they tend to leave their waste in a certain area so that you can remove it or are they more like fowl who go where ever with little reguard. I have heard it goes both ways, but understand that pigs are intelligent and cleaner than most people believe. Also, what about their enclosures - do they escape often? Problems with raccoons, foxes or coyotes?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Rasputina View Post
                So, the cat wouldn't eat the livers, either, eh?
                I heard once that cats bring people dead animals because they like the people but realize that people are incompetent at acquiring/hunting their own food. The livers might be the best part, according to the cat.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by jfreaksho View Post
                  I heard once that cats bring people dead animals because they like the people but realize that people are incompetent at acquiring/hunting their own food. The livers might be the best part, according to the cat.
                  My cat brings me her stuffed cat and mouse every night at bedtime

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                  • #54
                    pigs are generally very CLEAN animals and defecate in a communal area away from where they sleep and eat. They being said...large hog farms are where you probably get that awful smell. These are super duper concentrated feeding operations. Having worked for the USDA---I can say I've seen them first hand!

                    I want piggies too...it's on our list. I got bees this year though, so it might be another year or two before we are up and running with hogs.
                    Check out my blog on nature and nurture!
                    http://thewoodsygal.com/

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                    • #55
                      Pigs use one area for a bathroom, for the most part. We don't do any poop removal, since they usually have enough space and aren't there very long. They also like to make a mud wallow for when it's hot. We run the sprinkler for them too.

                      Here's a link to a pic of our pig pen - http://seventreesfarm.files.wordpres...12/07/bbq2.jpg
                      When the piggies get bigger we'll expand it a little.
                      Seven Trees Farm - diversified subsistence farming on 1.25 acres.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by solstice View Post
                        pigs are generally very CLEAN animals and defecate in a communal area away from where they sleep and eat. They being said...large hog farms are where you probably get that awful smell. These are super duper concentrated feeding operations. Having worked for the USDA---I can say I've seen them first hand!

                        I want piggies too...it's on our list. I got bees this year though, so it might be another year or two before we are up and running with hogs.
                        Oh, my gosh - there is a hog feeding operation not far from here, coupla' miles or so. The owners set up shop across literally across the road from some folks I know, and now it stinks there 24/7 and they can't sell their house. They were talking about moving already before the hog lot came, and now nobody wants the place... ugh. On bad days you can smell it way before you even get up their hill. Those poor pigs. (and the folks across the road)
                        I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
                          Oh, my gosh - there is a hog feeding operation not far from here, coupla' miles or so. The owners set up shop across literally across the road from some folks I know, and now it stinks there 24/7 and they can't sell their house. They were talking about moving already before the hog lot came, and now nobody wants the place... ugh. On bad days you can smell it way before you even get up their hill. Those poor pigs. (and the folks across the road)
                          We had the opposite problem out here. They decided to build tract houses right by the pig farm, and people bought them wihout researching what was around them or freaking just smelling the air, so then they expected the pig farm to either shut down, move, or modify their operations so much that they would go out of business.

                          Stupid people.
                          Durp.

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                          • #58
                            JBailey...I've heard that the pigs will literally till the area you pen them into...yes? We have a gorgeous field,planted to native warm season grasses that I would hate to sacrifice for pigs rooting.
                            Check out my blog on nature and nurture!
                            http://thewoodsygal.com/

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by solstice View Post
                              JBailey...I've heard that the pigs will literally till the area you pen them into...yes? We have a gorgeous field,planted to native warm season grasses that I would hate to sacrifice for pigs rooting.
                              LOL! That's exactly why we pen our piggies where we do. Free tilling If the area is too big, they root up certain spots and leave the rest. So we start small and expand as they dig.

                              Our current pair have been here 24 hours and already made a big dent in the nettles.
                              Seven Trees Farm - diversified subsistence farming on 1.25 acres.

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                              • #60
                                i haven't killed anything or anyone in a while (joke), but i remember when i was a child, and this is a story i've told on this forum many years ago, i remember when i was a child and my dad and some other people from the village slaughtered a bull. i watched as they did this, and i had the privalege of eating the testicles. they gave me the testicles because this is a great honor, so the child should eat them.

                                hunting is in my future, for sure.

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