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    I work at an office where it's not really possible for me to get a standing desk and as such, I end up having to sit for most of my day. It's a shame, but there's not much I can do about it.

    However, today, due to uncounted on circumstances, I have been standing constantly since the moment I awoke.

    I awoke at 7:15 AM and it is now 2:33 PM. That is currently 7 hours, 18 minutes of constant standing.

    When I thought of that, I was reminded of Mark's post on the health benefits and the importance of standing.

    So, here's my primal experiment:

    How long can I go standing before some circumstance forces me to sit and/or lay down? What can I do to avoid needing to sit down? When do I reach that state of utter exhaustion in my legs that I just HAVE to sit down? Do I feel better or worse after I end the experiment?

    Who wants to try this one with me?
    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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    Nice. I would try it today, but I have to be somewhat lazy on my days off because of how much I do on my work week. So maybe when I get back to work I'll have a go at it. My shift is ten hours, and I'm pretty sure I can stand the whole thing, since I walk all the time from room to room anyway.
    Crohn's, doing SCD

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    • #3
      Hmmm... I'm interested. I just wonder if I have the stamina.
      Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
        Hmmm... I'm interested. I just wonder if I have the stamina.
        It's not about having lots of stamina, it's about just seeing how much you have. It could be 20 hours, it could be 20 minutes, just test it.
        "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
          Nice. I would try it today, but I have to be somewhat lazy on my days off because of how much I do on my work week. So maybe when I get back to work I'll have a go at it. My shift is ten hours, and I'm pretty sure I can stand the whole thing, since I walk all the time from room to room anyway.
          You can do your shift, but can you go BEYOND that? If so, how much?
          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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          • #6
            I just re-read his Marks post on standing: Standing at Work | Mark's Daily Apple

            Static standing, he says, is like sitting. It leads to tired legs, swollen feet, etc. This is where I would fail. I can stand most of my day as long as I am moving. But once I stand still for too long, like at a computer, I want to drop and plop. So, fixes for that?
            Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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            • #7
              I tried working standing and in the end, it didn't work. It's just not comfortable.
              My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
              When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                So, here's my primal experiment:

                How long can I go standing before some circumstance forces me to sit and/or lay down? What can I do to avoid needing to sit down? When do I reach that state of utter exhaustion in my legs that I just HAVE to sit down? Do I feel better or worse after I end the experiment?
                I guess it'd be interesting to try, but I'd be surprised if you didn't feel worse.

                The healthy thing really is to be in movement -- with rests in between. Sure, sitting isn't ideal for special reasons. (Or sitting in a chair; sitting on your hams (i.e. squatting) is OK.) But it's not only that: maintaining any posture for an extended period of time is not going to be good. Soldiers on ceremonial duties wiggle their toes in their boots so as not to actually pass out.

                Ideally, one would spend part of the time standing, part sitting in a squat (and/or on a high stool, which allows a more open angle at the hip than a chair), a few minutes a couple of times a day lying down (to allow your spine to return to its full length) and would do plenty of walking and other activities in between.

                I guess another alternative would be kneeling, as in Japanese society in the old days. Or there's kneeling with the assistance of a meditation stool:

                meditation stool - Google Search

                I can't remember those ever being mentioned on the boards here anywhere, but that's another interesting seating option.

                It's a matter of changing posture and of moving.

                Primal Man would certainly mix and match a bit. People living like that would do plenty of walking around, fetching and carrying water and fuel, paying visits, looking for food, and so on. When not active they'd spend a fair amount of time just lounging around their living area, chatting, repairing weapons, making things, playing music.

                Wild animals spend quite a lot of time just lying around -- so do domestic cats, if you watch them. People in modern society are perhaps rather odd. Does any other animal in the whole of creation spend much of the time neither properly active nor just resting?

                So I'm in favor of mixed postures and movement. But, sure, "how long can I stand?" would be an interesting experiment.

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                • #9
                  I think this is where the old saying, a change is as good as a rest, would come into play. Taking a break from standing by squatting, walking, or doing that stretch where you kneel on the floor, then lower your rear to your heels and put your hands on the floor over your head(sorry, the name is escaping me at the moment), would probably make it possible to keep standing some more.
                  Let us know how your standing day went, okay? It is always good to hear the end of the experiment, not just the enthusiastic start. (Or middle, in your case!)

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                  • #10
                    But for a one-day experiment, it sounds like fun. 10 hours is the longest I can go, because I have to sleep and eat, too.
                    Crohn's, doing SCD

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                    • #11
                      I stand at my desk, but I am constantly shifting my weight from one foot to the other, putting my flip-flops on, taking them off, putting one foot up on a block, going back to both feet on the ground, standing in tree pose, turning my body a few degrees one way or another, stretching my arms and shoulders, walking down the hall to get water, etc. I find the longer I stand without moving the worse I feel, just like sitting. If I could hook up a treadmill to my desk that would be awesome.
                      Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lewis View Post
                        Soldiers on ceremonial duties wiggle their toes in their boots so as not to actually pass out.
                        Pretty close, we do wiggle our toes but also rapidly flexing muscles in our legs, quads hams and glutes makes the biggest difference. And all without any visible motion.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                          But for a one-day experiment, it sounds like fun. 10 hours is the longest I can go, because I have to sleep and eat, too.
                          you spend 14 hours eating and sleeping? luxe life that!

                          i work in a restaurant, so am on my feet most often 12+ hours per day. i usually have to eat standing, on-the-fly. however, standing in one place is just terrible for you. all the blood just flows down and pools in your feet. your feet also aren't designed to just hold your body weight in one place for hours at a time. you need to be moving around.
                          As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                          Ernest Hemingway

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sabine View Post
                            I think this is where the old saying, a change is as good as a rest, would come into play. Taking a break from standing by squatting, walking, or doing that stretch where you kneel on the floor, then lower your rear to your heels and put your hands on the floor over your head(sorry, the name is escaping me at the moment), would probably make it possible to keep standing some more.
                            Let us know how your standing day went, okay? It is always good to hear the end of the experiment, not just the enthusiastic start. (Or middle, in your case!)
                            For the purpose of this experiment, I did need to move, so I considered walking to be a part of it.

                            I may it from 7:15 AM to 8:15 PM before I sat down. And I didn't even feel the need to, I just did so by reflex at one point and then I was like, whelp, I guess that experiment is officially over!
                            "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                            • #15
                              How does sitting on the floor compare with sitting in a chair health wise?
                              Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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