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  • #16
    While I do not think PB/paleo is a fad... Evolution, creation, created evolutionist, evolutionist creationist, or evolving creationist aside, I am intrigued at the kind of people that are attracted to it. Sometimes it becomes a fad because a new paleo restaurant opened in town or because it is a sign of wealth to buy grassfed or whatever. Atlanta has become a gluten free hub of sorts and most people have no idea why they are eating gluten free other than to try to be an elite group and because their friends think it's the new thing. But more power to them as it benefits those of us who get dirty dog sick on e stuff. More food options!
    Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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    • #17
      I am a creationist and a Christian who doesn't particularly care about the exact mechanism that put humans on this planet. That being said, I suppose I am an Old Earth Creationist. Primal/Paleo work really well for me. That's all.

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      • #18
        It may not be popular, but being a Christian does not automatically preclude a belief that evolution occurred and is occurring.
        Durp.

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        • #19
          If God created the universe and all in it, then who created God?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by john_e_turner_ii View Post
            If God created the universe and all in it, then who created God?
            You're looking (aka trolling, in this case) for something based on faith with a question rooted in the scientific need for answers.
            If I just said LOL, I lied. Do or do not. There is no try.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
              I think God is so much more than how he gets portrayed by everybody quoting Him in the Evolution-Darwin-Natural Selection-Biblical debates, so I don't worry about it. I read everything, secure (at least in my own head) that my questioning is okay, too. Questions are the beginning of new information and hopefully, understanding.
              as Jefferson wrote: "Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."

              I'm a Christian that believes in creationism! However, I can look back in "known history" and see how humans have evolved/addapted who truly knows how far we have come?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                This is 100% correct and makes me want to re-read this awesome book.
                That's a good one is it? I've read The God Delusion and The Greatest Show on Earth, but not that one. Maybe I'll give it a go. I always have to leave a good long time between his books though; he's so damn smug. He's good at explaining his science, but damn he thinks that there is nothing in the universe that Richard Dawkins cannot comprehend. Funny.

                And so far as taxonomy goes, it seems most folks do not label humans as apes, but rather put apes and humans in the same hominid bucket. At least as far as my intertubes searches could find.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
                  I have my own personal brand of faith. I definitely am not atheist - mine does include Creation and Creator. It is just not the "you will burn in Hell if you are not a Young-Earth Creationist" type of segregating belief.

                  I think God is so much more than how he gets portrayed by everybody quoting Him in the Evolution-Darwin-Natural Selection-Biblical debates, so I don't worry about it. I read everything, secure (at least in my own head) that my questioning is okay, too. Questions are the beginning of new information and hopefully, understanding.

                  Scientists do their scientific thing, which has brought us a lot of blessings. And churchmen have done many good things also. And both have their share of badness to answer for. We all are trying. What else can we do, given our limitations as physical beings on this plane, born in this time, being terminally curious and all??

                  Maybe sometime, waaaaaaay out there in time, we all will agree on one, definitive answer. Since that time is not yet, I'll let everybody, no matter where they stand in this debate, have their opinions. It will all eventually shake out.
                  +1

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                  • #24
                    Ooops I must have asked the question the wrong way... Looks like I said, "would someone debate creation vs evolution?"
                    Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
                      Ooops I must have asked the question the wrong way... Looks like I said, "would someone debate creation vs evolution?"
                      No, this is just where this topic goes, every time, every single time.
                      If I just said LOL, I lied. Do or do not. There is no try.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by georgiapeach View Post
                        ooops i must have asked the question the wrong way... Looks like i said, "would someone debate creation vs evolution?"
                        haahaaaa!!!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by justyouraveragecavemen View Post
                          No, this is just where this topic goes, every time, every single time.
                          Have our brains not evolved enough to answer simple questions?
                          Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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                          • #28
                            Paleo seems to make sense from an evolutionary standpoint. Most of what is sold in the grocery stores didn't even exist 30 years ago, let alone 30,000 years ago. It seems we keep creating crap to put in our mouths.

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                            • #29
                              I'm a Christian. We're paleo because it works. There is also truth that our ancestors ate cleaner foods - though I believe it was thousands of years ago rather than millions. Man, our ancestors 100 yrs ago ate cleaner than we do!
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                              • #30
                                Maybe sometime, waaaaaaay out there in time, we all will agree on one, definitive answer. Since that time is not yet, I'll let everybody, no matter where they stand in this debate, have their opinions. It will all eventually shake out.

                                I don't think we have to. Agree, that is. Belief is intensely personal, no matter what the beliefs are. No one believes precisely the same way; not creationists or atheists. That is why I object to religion being in public schools, etc. My faith, or lack, is my business. The key isn't to agree, but to be exactly where you are...allowing each individual to hold their own beliefs without prejudice.
                                Last edited by isbolick; 06-22-2012, 02:38 PM.

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