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  • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
    I second nigella lawson, but i'm a hetero chick so maybe my opinion doesn't matter as much.
    Bah!
    You don't really have to want to grope someone to assess their beauty... Nigella isn't a skinny woman, but she's got it going on in SPADES!
    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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    • Originally posted by spacey47 View Post
      WHO mentioned JEALOUS? honestly you NUT CASES just make it up as you go along!

      I say well done to anyone who gets in shape Ryan, Hugh all of them and they are both not bad actors to boot

      I just think you are sad bunch of Aholes who have nothing better to do than slobber over IMAGINARY fantasies on the Internet

      like ten year old girls

      Get a Fucking Life!
      actually, i have a life, and sometimes i like slobbering over fantasies on the internet like a ten year old girl. i happen to believe in people feeling good about themselves because of the quality of person they are and how they treat others. that has nothing to do with my sweet spot for ryan reynolds or other such hotties.
      my primal journal:
      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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      • Nigella is gorgeous.

        Also, I think it's a bit of a ridiculous assumption to think that someone who says "that person is hot" is somehow sexually frustrated or unable to find a partner.

        Personally, I have a man with a physique along the lines of the Ryans (or maybe closer to Batman Christian Bale--a bit more bulky than the Ryans). Did you know that men with that sort of body are frequently overweight or obese by BMI standards? Guess that makes me a chubby-chasin' kinda gal. So sad.

        I think it's pretty pathetic when someone can work himself into such a furious froth over people who think that fat folks are human and deserve dignity and respect and can't conceive of the fact that people might think this way even if they are not themselves fat. Also, why does it matter to you who women around here think is sexy? I think you're more offended that we stopped paying attention to your childish, hate-filled spew.

        So please, keep on attacking members of this board and being an ass. It's definitely winning you friends in the community--even the people who agree with you on the fat acceptance movement think you're being an idiot.
        “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

        Owly's Journal

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        • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
          i wish i knew the backstory to this gif.

          jessica biel is my body hero.
          Jessica Biel is my girl crush.

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          • Originally posted by spacey47 View Post
            WHO mentioned JEALOUS? honestly you NUT CASES just make it up as you go along!

            I say well done to anyone who gets in shape Ryan, Hugh all of them and they are both not bad actors to boot

            I just think you are sad bunch of Aholes who have nothing better to do than slobber over IMAGINARY fantasies on the Internet

            like ten year old girls

            Get a Fucking Life!
            You DO know the meaning of the word 'irony', right? YOU have so much life that you can waste some of it wandering in here to attack people?? See, every word you type is contradictory to reality. Somebody with a life wouldn't care. So, thanks! Way to make my argument for me! Keep on reinforcing our arguments for us...makes things easier for us.

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            • Originally posted by spacey47 View Post
              I say well done to anyone who gets in shape Ryan, Hugh all of them and they are both not bad actors to boot

              I just think you are sad bunch of Aholes who have nothing better to do than slobber over IMAGINARY fantasies on the Internet

              like ten year old girls

              Get a Fucking Life!
              Actually... studies have shown that the most "fit looking" folks (ie the bulging, ripped, six pack crew)... are not actually the healthiest in the long run.
              But if that's the type of life they enjoy, or they just enjoy the fact that it pays their bills REALLY well, good for them.

              As for drooling over IMAGINARY fantasies... sorry again.
              What some here have been drooling over is quite real. Flesh and bone as it were...
              Now if we were drooling over say some weird asss Japanese Hentai porn, THEN it would be an IMAGINARY fantasy.
              You seem so confused.

              Ten year old girls?
              WTF??? Are you some sort of goddam Pedofile!
              Ten year old girls aren't drooling and fapping to internet pics... EXCEPT in some seriously disturbed IMAGINARY bullshit that YOU just threw out on the table.
              Again... WTF!

              What "life"?
              Yours???
              That sounds horrible.
              Sorry buddy, I'm 100% not interested in YOUR version of a "life".
              And I don't think anyone else here is either.
              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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              • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                I second nigella lawson, but i'm a hetero chick so maybe my opinion doesn't matter as much.
                I love watching Nigella too, but because she seems so happy with the food and it's preparation. I would love to have that all the time as I spend so much time making healthy food for my family. Food should be a celebration and it seems a rare thing to see my family excited over some wild caught or grass fed feast I prepare - F'ing media and pizza crap!!!

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                • I love Nigella too. There's no doubt that laid-back women with curves in the right places live longer, and age much better too.
                  F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                  • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                    Ten year old girls?
                    WTF??? Are you some sort of goddam Pedofile!
                    Ten year old girls aren't drooling and fapping to internet pics...
                    uhh...wha...how'd you know?? are you watching me?

                    Originally posted by Mud Flinger View Post
                    Food should be a celebration and it seems a rare thing to see my family excited over some wild caught or grass fed feast I prepare - F'ing media and pizza crap!!!
                    a-freaking-men. the only things my kids celebrate about are popcorn and ice cream (our rare family cheats).
                    my primal journal:
                    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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                    • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                      a-freaking-men. the only things my kids celebrate about are popcorn and ice cream (our rare family cheats).
                      We built a 'wild rabbit' out of meatloaf last night, and followed it with home-made icecream (with shredded coconut and tiny fragments of dark chocolate folded through). "Meal of the week" according to the kiddos, even if the rabbit ended up looking more like an alien than a rabbit once it came out of the oven.
                      Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                      Griff's cholesterol primer
                      5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                      Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                      TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                      bloodorchid is always right

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                      • FierceHunter and all her little bigoted friends-
                        I try to stay out of whatever BS y'all are spouting. Live and let live. But your right to fling your arm ends at my nose.
                        No, I have never been obese or fat. I've been lucky on that front. I do, however, have several friends that appear to be or are overweight thanks to medical conditions or meds for said conditions or shitty luck of the draw. Have you been there? Have been fat or been best friends with someone apparently overweight because their body screwed up? I highly doubt it. You appear to be the kind of person that would "helpfully" offer my friend on multiple steroids due to JRA a weight loss book because she looks "fat."
                        Before you accuse me of this, that, or the other, before you accuse this forum of jumping down your throat, walk in their shoes before running your lucky little mouth. Then see if you can make the same comments. Never been in their shoes? STFU.
                        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, steak in one hand, chocolate in the other, yelling "Holy F***, What a Ride!"
                        My Latest Journal

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                        • pics!! sounds cute. i hate to admit that i dislike cooking with my kids. it feels like pure chaos.
                          my primal journal:
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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                          • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                            pics!! sounds cute. i hate to admit that i dislike cooking with my kids. it feels like pure chaos.
                            I'll have to get one off the camera this evening.

                            I find I only have the skills/awareness/stamina to deal with one kid in the kitchen at a time (but NOT the 2yr old. he definitely is an agent of chaos). So I come and offer them a special treat of helping me cook

                            They can do things like put things in the food processor (which we dusted off to use for pretty much everything yesterday, from the turning of stewing steak into mince, to the grating of the veggies, to the dicing of the coconut flesh and choc pieces). And they are a dab hand at holding the electric beater while egg whites or cream is being whipped.
                            Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                            Griff's cholesterol primer
                            5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                            Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                            TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                            bloodorchid is always right

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                            • Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
                              FierceHunter and all her little bigoted friends-
                              I try to stay out of whatever BS y'all are spouting. Live and let live. But your right to fling your arm ends at my nose.
                              No, I have never been obese or fat. I've been lucky on that front. I do, however, have several friends that appear to be or are overweight thanks to medical conditions or meds for said conditions or shitty luck of the draw. Have you been there? Have been fat or been best friends with someone apparently overweight because their body screwed up? I highly doubt it. You appear to be the kind of person that would "helpfully" offer my friend on multiple steroids due to JRA a weight loss book because she looks "fat."
                              Before you accuse me of this, that, or the other, before you accuse this forum of jumping down your throat, walk in their shoes before running your lucky little mouth. Then see if you can make the same comments. Never been in their shoes? STFU.
                              and this Naiad is why I love you. In a completely fraternal, non-sexual, forumy type way.

                              and on a separate note...merl, that sounds awesome. I want to eat dinner at your place or maybe just make meatloaf rabbits.

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                              • Originally posted by Jen AlcesAlces View Post
                                The bottom line to me is that I do not know everyone's story, and who am I to judge why someone is fat and if it is acceptable. This movement seems to be aiming for respectful treatment of fat people, regardless of the who, what, why they are fat. I'm good with that.
                                Yes - I think people on both sides of the debate need to realize that it is possible to respect yourself and see the worth in yourself(or someone else) as a person, but at the same time recognize that there are aspects of yourself that can be improved. Self-respect doesn't need to mean giving up and stopping any attempts at change.

                                "I'm fat, and I'm a smart, capable, worthwhile person" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm perfect, and there's no reason to try and get healthier". The key is that when one loves/respects oneself, the focus becomes(or should become) health rather than other more superficial goals - which is a good thing all around.

                                The fat acceptance movement needs to realize that the simple statement that losing weight can improve your health isn't a direct attack on their worth as human beings - and likewise, people on the other side need to realize that loving/respecting oneself doesn't mean that someone has totally given up on trying to change themself for the better.

                                As I said before, there are studies that show criticism and shaming of obese people will NOT help them lose weight - in fact it is more likely to make things worse. If this movement does the exact opposite of shaming, perhaps it will give people more self-respect and desire to treat their bodies well, yes? Seems like a good idea to me. Perhaps you all disagree.
                                I also think this is very relevant. When I gained a bunch of weight, depression(brought on by issues unrelated to weight) was a huge, huge factor. As I gained weight, that only served to compound my negative self-image and led to something of a vicious cycle. It was really the help of a couple key people that really helped me break out of it - and once I started seeing myself more positively, it enabled me to make more positive changes in my life, which over time got me back to the same weight as before all those issues - which I've maintained for quite some time now.

                                In my case, was the weight gain brought on by gluttony and laziness? Yes, in a sense. But the real driving force behind that was actually depression - and I think psychological factors behind why people are "lazy" and "gluttonous" deserve a great deal of examination - depression, excessive stress(either the stress itself, or the stress playing havoc with hormones), jobs/lifestyles that result in a lot of physical and mental fatigue - perhaps others as well. While weight gain/loss is the product of what we eat and what we do, those in turn are influenced by psychological factors, which I think many people are quick to dismiss - and are much more complex than simple laziness and gluttony.
                                Last edited by jsa23; 06-24-2012, 06:45 PM.

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