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  • ALWAYS follow your doctor's advice, especially in regard to FAD diets!!

    Here is a panel of experts from a major network news source:

    Primal/Paleo is not for everyone, it's for those who have committed to understand.
    READ THE BOOK! ...as Robb Wolf says: "Trying to convince people to save their own ass will burn you out."

    Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for -- the pure enjoyment of food. Anthony Bourdain

    and yes, calories DO count my little piggies

  • #2
    Originally posted by Moochy View Post
    Here is a panel of experts from a major network news source:
    "Basically"--look into camera and assume a wise tone--"eat less and move more".

    ROTFL.


    Thanks, Moochy. I love your finds. That was amusing in a slightly horrifying way.



    I'll think I'll now go and spend three hours digging some roots for breakfast, which I'll then eat raw. Fortunately, as I'm a 21st century man and there are antibiotics I shan't get my "first heart attack until [I'm] in [my] eighties".

    These three clowns are medical doctors? They're about as well-informed and thoughtful as three random characters off the street.

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    • #3
      Yeah my life is sooo busy now, all the time I spend digging up roots; actually I'm too tired to do that cos I'm hungry all the time.

      Smarmy gits!
      There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        So paleolithic man lived only into his teens and was starving all the time and the paleo diet means you dig for roots all day, eschew antibiotics and basic sanitation and eat everything raw? Good lord! I think the corporations are running scared. By god, don't stop eating all our packaged goods, advertisements coming up in just a minute.
        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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        • #5
          Evidentaly the Doc has not done very much research on the diets he dissed. Whether he agrees with them or not is one thing, but to just make crap up describing a diet is stupid, irresponsible, ignorant, etc.

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          • #6
            “Always listen to your doctor!” (said in a swami, hypnotic like voice) “Drink the (artificially sweetened) Kool-aid of CW!”
            Randal
            AKA: Texas Grok

            Originally posted by texas.grok
            Facebook is to intelligence what a black hole is to light
            http://hardcoremind.com/

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            • #7
              It's interesting how people think of hunter gatherers as Suvivorman, especially when all you have to do to learn a little bit about them is watch a documentary on Netflix. Not starving, not spending all their time procuring food (and when they do, it doesn't bother them), and old people do exist in the wild!

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              • #8
                Back in the early days of the US the capitalists were busy trying to figure out ways to turn the poor into workers. They couldn't stand how the poor could just go out and hunt and forage and if they managed to obtain a cow and a few chickens, well they then couldn't be forced to work no matter what you tried to tempt them with. And if the poor don't work you can't extract much wealth out of the world. So the first thing they had to do was make hunting illegal and then they had to make laws that made owning enough land to be self-sufficient very difficult. Nowadays, that's all pretty much taken care of and so now what they have to do is try to scare you into taking what is left of your self-sufficiency away, which nowadays involves your health. God forbid you don't need all those medicines they advertise. God forbid you stop consuming artificial food. God forbid you opt out of the health industry. Don't stop taking your medicine. Don't fall for those fad diets where you eat food that isn't in a package. We want you delivering money to us to the day you die.
                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Timthetaco View Post
                  It's interesting how people think of hunter gatherers as Suvivorman, especially when all you have to do to learn a little bit about them is watch a documentary on Netflix. Not starving, not spending all their time procuring food (and when they do, it doesn't bother them), and old people do exist in the wild!
                  A lot of times, I think Lewis and I are the only ones who have ever read any accounts of Hunter-Gatherers. I highly recommend this book for anyone who thinks life was "nasty, brutish, and short" for our ancestors:

                  http://www.amazon.com/Stone-Age-Econ.../dp/0202010996
                  The Champagne of Beards

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                  • #10
                    "Mine is the last voice you will ever hear. Do not be alarmed."
                    "After all we did for Britain, selling all that corduroy and making it swing, and all we got was a bit of tin on a piece of leather, an MBE." --George Harrison

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                      Back in the early days of the US the capitalists were busy trying to figure out ways to turn the poor into workers. They couldn't stand how the poor could just go out and hunt and forage and if they managed to obtain a cow and a few chickens, well they then couldn't be forced to work no matter what you tried to tempt them with. And if the poor don't work you can't extract much wealth out of the world. So the first thing they had to do was make hunting illegal and then they had to make laws that made owning enough land to be self-sufficient very difficult. Nowadays, that's all pretty much taken care of and so now what they have to do is try to scare you into taking what is left of your self-sufficiency away, which nowadays involves your health. God forbid you don't need all those medicines they advertise. God forbid you stop consuming artificial food. God forbid you opt out of the health industry. Don't stop taking your medicine. Don't fall for those fad diets where you eat food that isn't in a package. We want you delivering money to us to the day you die.
                      Oh please. Who is "they", the government? The politicians who the poor people elected? Give me a break.

                      Clearly the solution here is to abolish the state and it has nothing at all to do with capitalists or capitalism.

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                      • #12
                        "They" are the wealthy.
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Timthetaco View Post
                          It's interesting how people think of hunter gatherers as Suvivorman, especially when all you have to do to learn a little bit about them is watch a documentary on Netflix. Not starving, not spending all their time procuring food (and when they do, it doesn't bother them), and old people do exist in the wild!
                          And in the Paleolithic they hadn't been pushed into marginal land and none of their game was subject to game laws (because it wasn't then a resource to attract tourists on safari) nor had its numbers been heavily impacted by outsiders armed with express rifles.

                          As for roots ... well, as it happens I just found, bought, and listened to Kabloona: Among the Inuit at iTunes. Here it is in print form:

                          http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...words=kabloona

                          I don't think a root is mentioned in the whole book. No surprise there (although Stefansson does list a tuber as an occasional resource for these people in the appendices to one of his books). But there are certainly unforgettable accounts of meat-feasts. When they had plenty -- and of course they didn't always -- they would sit around and eat pounds of it, go to sleep, wake up and begin eating again. And that's not just something to do with the climate -- P. J. Schoeman describes Bushmen in S.W. Africa (now Namibia) doing just the same.

                          Roots, forsooth!

                          Of course, the expert was just trying to be funny. But in a sense that's just what was wrong. He didn't think the subject he was asked to comment on was important enough to be serious about or to to do the research on. This is where I have some sympathy with Robb Wolf position that this stuff does matter, because there's a direct link between what you eat and the state of your health, and the crap that's around is literally killing people.

                          I mean what's that about the Dukan Diet? AFAIK, that's another of these diets that tries to go low carb and low fat, which is probably not a good idea from the point of view of one's health, and in any case is unsustainable in the long run. Nothing was actually said about the sort of foods prescribed by the diet, what it was trying to do, and whether its assumptions were reasonable. We were supposed to be interested in it because the former Kate Middleton had used it and she's a celebrity. And with 1 in 3 American adults said to be obese, and diabetes and autoimmune diseases rampant, that's the level they're addressing the problem on.

                          Then we end with the fatuous advice to eat a bit less and move a bit more ... as if food quality were a total irrelevance.

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                          • #14
                            good grief....i can't believe the way he described paleo....how insulting! At least read up on it instead of spouting pure crap!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                              "They" are the wealthy.
                              ...and wealthy is defined as anyone who makes more money than you, correct?

                              The people who make laws and things that are illegal are congressmen/women. Some are wealthy and some aren't but they all sure can be bribed.

                              What is your solution? Give more power to government? Or take away the government's power?

                              The wealthy don't make the laws, the people you elect make the laws.

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