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    Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
    Can we stop already?

    Make a new thread or something?

    Seriously.
    Be careful what you wish for.

    Grok, come at me bro.
    “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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    anarchism: because without politicians there is no politics.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Grok View Post
      anarchism: because without politicians there is no politics.
      I don't know the context here, but taken at face value that is the Most naive statement about politics I have ever read.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by jammies View Post
        I don't know the context here, but taken at face value that is the Most naive statement about politics I have ever read.
        Agreed... but

        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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        • #5
          Can't we just kill everyone and call it a day?
          In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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          • #6
            I'm almost afraid to ask....where on earth did all this start?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by jammies View Post
              I don't know the context here, but taken at face value that is the Most naive statement about politics I have ever read.
              Your idea of anarchism is probably people throwing bricks at banks because people who do that are labelled as anarchists by the mainstream media. By anarchist, I mean an anarcho-capitalist who respects people's property rights.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jammies View Post
                I'm almost afraid to ask....where on earth did all this start?
                I mentioned that I was against slavery in the gripe thread and everyone started accusing me of pushing my anti-slavery political agenda on everyone.

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                • #9
                  True anarchy is the only palatable option to a liberated mind. Those who insist on social insurance against the inherently tenuous and tragic nature of biological life are forever willing to accept slavery to a state in exchange for the illusion of security.

                  I am my own state. My truest purpose is to realize that as fully as possible in my time. Difficult, because the trade was made before my birth, and so few accept the futility of insurance.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Grok View Post
                    By anarchist, I mean an anarcho-capitalist who respects people's property rights.
                    And I bet you're just *shocked* by the idea that in an anarchist society, there might not be people who respect the rights of others?

                    Originally posted by Grok View Post
                    I mentioned that I was against slavery in the gripe thread and everyone started accusing me of pushing my anti-slavery political agenda on everyone.
                    People were already asking you to shut up even before you pretended that supporting socialised medicine was the equivalent of supporting slavery.

                    That made you seem really naive and callow to me. It's as if you have no idea what human suffering and compassion is (in either case).
                    Last edited by magicmerl; 05-03-2012, 06:24 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                      And I bet you're just *shocked* by the idea that in an anarchist society, there might not be people who respect the rights of others?
                      So you suggest we have a monopoly on protection services? I thought monopolies were bad?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Grok View Post
                        So you suggest we have a monopoly on protection services? I thought monopolies were bad?
                        This is starting to feel like arguing with a creationist.

                        There will always be conflict when two people want the same resources. I suggest that your anarchist premise is flawed before it starts, because it provides no viable solution to this problem.

                        p.s. Monopolies are not inherently bad. They are bad in a free market system, but that it not the ideal system for many industries. In fact, they are the ideal solution for systems that cannot be allowed to fail (and thus should not be allowed to 'run free' on the free market).
                        Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                        Griff's cholesterol primer
                        5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                        Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                        TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                        bloodorchid is always right

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                          And I bet you're just *shocked* by the idea that in an anarchist society, there might not be people who respect the rights of others?


                          People were already asking you to shut up even before you pretended that supporting socialised medicine was the equivalent of supporting slavery.

                          That made you seem really naive and callow to me. It's as if you have no idea what human suffering and compassion is (in either case).


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                          • #14
                            Capitalism is a product of the state. Projecting your own preferred mode of production as something that everyone has to adopt is inherently authoritarian, whether you choose to call yourself a socialist or capitalist or whatthefuckever.

                            I advocate for anarchism and fail to see anything wrong with what magicmerl is saying. Believing that "the free market" will magically take care of all economic and social woes is equally as absurd as believing that socialism can do the same. The reality is that neither can, and any economic system (or lack thereof) is inevitably going to require constant vigilance. I just posit that a stateless society would be better equipped for monitoring social justice by way of cutting out the dangerous middle-man, but that requires a population of free thinkers of which we are not. As long as the vast majority of people are being trained by their parents, teachers, and priests to obey authority, statism and capitalism will never go away. Attacking the state without first attacking the social mores that feed it is like trying to get away with only lopping off one of the hydra's heads.
                            Last edited by Chaohinon; 05-03-2012, 07:14 PM.
                            “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
                              Capitalism is a product of the state
                              How do you reach that conclusion?

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