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  • #31
    Originally posted by Grok View Post
    Please do, I'm like the lone anarchist here amongst a den of statists. I need all the back-up I can get.
    I'm technically an anarchist too. I'm just the kind of anarchist who doesn't play well with others.
    In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
      What does anarchism actually stand *for*. It seems like it's defined itself as being 'not that other thing'. Yes?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Grok View Post
        What do you think people did in this country before we had medicare and medicaid? Do you actually think sick people were just dying in the streets without being taken care of?
        Yes
        Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

        http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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        • #34
          Jammies, I think you forgot to put on your blinders and rose colored glasses before you looked into the past.

          But what period of unbridled capitalism and greed are we waxing nostalgic about?
          Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jammies View Post
            Yes
            Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
            Jammies, I think you forgot to put on your blinders and rose colored glasses before you looked into the past.

            But what period of unbridled capitalism and greed are we waxing nostalgic about?
            Do you people get your history from fiction like The Jungle by Upton Sinclair?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by jammies View Post
              Yes
              Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
              Jammies, I think you forgot to put on your blinders and rose colored glasses before you looked into the past.

              But what period of unbridled capitalism and greed are we waxing nostalgic about?
              But did you watch the video... it explains EVERYTHING. **trumpeting angels**
              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                But did you watch the video... it explains EVERYTHING. **trumpeting angels**
                Which video? I hope you watched them all.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Grok View Post
                  Which video? I hope you watched them all.
                  She posted the video on asdf by accident.
                  In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
                    She posted the video on asdf by accident.
                    I read somewhere that smurfs were socialists.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
                      She posted the video on asdf by accident.
                      That wasn't an accident. That's where I felt it belonged.
                      “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                      ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                      And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                      • #41
                        Also smurf society only worked because papa smurf was their benevolent leader. He butt raped them whenever they disobeyed. That's why smurfette kept disobeying.
                        In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Grok View Post
                          They were mostly free of government intervention, yes.
                          I wonder where the land came from? Lucky the government herded the indians into reservations, I guess.

                          Originally posted by Grok View Post
                          The poor would go to churches or hospitals. There were doctors who would take care of the sick and the poor paid them back as well as they could. It's called having a sense of community and having love and respect for one another.
                          Churches and hospitals? How can they exist without collective effort? How did the doctors get their education?

                          Originally posted by Grok View Post
                          A doctor's visit before statist intervention was extremely affordable, insurance was even cheaper.
                          And if you needed a loan, the interest rate was 40%.

                          Originally posted by Grok View Post
                          With all the statist intervention we have today, the doctors and hospitals and insurance companies are robbing you all blind. It's legalized plunder. The insurance companies actually want to use the force of the state to force you to buy their products.
                          Actually, that's a failure of CAPITALSIM, not socialism. The for-profit motive for companies conflicts with the 'get well and live in my own house' ethos of those people fortunate enough to be 'customers'.

                          Originally posted by Grok View Post
                          Could you imagine Monsanto using the government to force you to buy GMO corn because the FDA says it's healthier for you and we need to cut down on healthcare costs? If the government can force you to buy health insurance from corporation X, they can force you to buy GMO corn from corporation Y.
                          Look, I totally agree that where free market principles are applicable, government intervention should be minimal. I just don't think that free market principles apply to things like healthcare, education, social welfare, libraries etc.

                          Originally posted by Grok View Post
                          I read somewhere that smurfs were socialists.
                          Judging by the picture you are painting of the idyllic wild west, I would have thought you would have claimed the smurfs as anarchists. Certainly they are opposed to the oppressive statist machinations of Gargamel.
                          Last edited by magicmerl; 05-03-2012, 09:26 PM.
                          Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                          Griff's cholesterol primer
                          5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                          Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                          TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                          bloodorchid is always right

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                            I wonder where the land came from? Lucky the government herded the indians into reservations, I guess.
                            The land didn't come from government, the Indians can tell you that.

                            Are you saying you are okay with government slaughtering Indians and Muslims just so long as you get your free healthcare? Because that's sure what it sounds like to me.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                              Judging by the picture you are painting of the idyllic wild west, I would have thought you would have claimed the smurfs as anarchists. Certainly they are opposed to the oppressive statist machinations of Gargamel.
                              I have to be honest, I've never watched a single episode of the Smurfs. I tried once when I was a kid, but I couldn't stand watching it for more than a couple of minutes.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Grok View Post
                                The land didn't come from government, the Indians can tell you that.

                                Are you saying you are okay with government slaughtering Indians and Muslims just so long as you get your free healthcare? Because that's sure what it sounds like to me.
                                Nope. I'm just pointing out that the 'wild west' existed because the settlers kinda killed the indians and took the land.

                                Seems like a reasonably good metaphor for anarchy, I guess.
                                Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                                Griff's cholesterol primer
                                5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                                Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                                TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                                bloodorchid is always right

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