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  • #16
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    We've switched fresh berry and yogurt parfaits from a dessert or snack food to a breakfast food. My kids still eat bread (they've been raised on sandwiches up to this point, so it's going to take longer to phase that out), but they rarely ask for cereal anymore. Fortunately, it's almost spring, so fruit will start to get a little cheaper soon

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    • #17
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      I live with my boyfriend and three roommates. My boyfriend doesn't seem to mind eating that way, although he's said he won't give up grains completely.


      My roommates...well...one of the guys would probably go for it if I talked to him more about it. He's part native american (and not just one of those 'I'm 1/40th of um, you know, one of those southern tribes' people) and is interested in cultural heritage and anthropology. He was vegetarian for like 15 years though, and still has a hard time accepting things like 'egg yolks = good'.


      Girl roommate is entirely un-primal. I've talked to her about it. She has anxiety issues and intense cravings and I've mentioned that I feel much better mentally when I don't eat sugar, and that sugar is addictive, etc. Yet sugar/carbs remain the bulk of her diet.


      Other guy roommate, I don't even think I'll try to convince. Eats rice seemingly at every meal.


      And come September I'll have another roommate, and although he's a very close friend, I don't know if I'd have much success. Very much a SADer: lives off of cheap, processed foods and fat-free dairy. Granted, he's lost a lot of weight (he used to be obese), but he's not healthy yet. If I can get him on the primal wagon, I'd be ecstatic, but it'd require a complete 180 of his current diet.

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      • #18
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        I guess I'd say it's easier to just give up. I've given up on my parents, for example. They've been vegetarian/vegan since the 70s and if they've done it this long, they're just not going to change. When they're at my place or I'm at theirs, I just cook. I get a lot of "That smells great, what are you making?" "Meat." I think that does a lot even if I don't know it. My mom told me about a month ago that what she really missed about eating meat was traditional sausages that her mom would make. (They lived in Germany in her youth) I told her it's not too late as long as she eats meats that were raised on pasture and makes it herself.


        But I think most of the problem, especially from vegetarians/vegans, is that giving up that diet means having to admit they were wrong. So it's not about food or health, it's about that. I know. I was there once. I'm about 1/3rd in TVM, but it looks like Lierre was there too. Though I did get my parents to watch Food Inc, and I've sent my mom links to the soy page at WAPF.


        The best way to do it is to really live healthfully. My aunt, a pescatarian & a diabetic, commented that I look so young and glowing. I've had dozens of people tell me I don't look a day over 22. I'm 28. Once, I passed by the high school on my bike and I was accosted by some admin/staff to get back inside or they would report me for truancy. Thanks to my looks, they thought I was a high school student! They didn't really believe me when I told them I was 27 either. If I could manage to lose some of my fat and put on more muscle, I'm sure that would make the case a little better too.

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        • #19
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          DH was totally against my WOE when I started Primal about 6 months ago. He's a physician (and therefore totally into CW) and was flabbergasted at the amount of fat I used to eat. He also was a vegetarian but slowly started eating meat after seeing the changes I was going through and also since I'm the primary cook at home, he had no option but to eat what I cooked. He's not completely primal (still eats bread etc, albeit sprouted) but just the fact that he's started to eat meat is a HUGE change. He also has lost about 10 lbs without trying in the last 4-5 months since he started eating meat and whatever I cooked. He may not ever become completely primal but he's eating less carbs than before and is not anti-fat anymore. It will take time but whatever changes he's made in the last few months are more than what I hoped for, so I'm happy.


          With your kids, if they don't have options other than what you cook, then it would be easy for them to transition into this way of eating. It maybe difficult to get rid of cereal, toast etc. if that's what they've been eating until now, but if you slowly reduced the amount and substituted it with, say eggs, then they will become primal before you know. Good luck.

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          • #20
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            Hi Annie! I have two kids (one 6 y.o. and one 9 y.o.) & a husband that are semi-primal. I know it's hard. Luckily, we were doing WAPF before, so going primal's not a huge leap but it's especially difficult for my 6 year old. The 9 y.o. is infintely easier to deal with. Kids can be carb-addicted, too, and that's really hard to deal with.


            Right now I'm fully primal & everyone else is semi-primal. My kids eat good stuff most of the time but will eat the occassional bowl of oatmeal and do eat sprouted wheat bread & sprouted wheat tortillas. There's never any cereal or other prepackaged stuff here. I transitioned them to coconut flour pancakes, too. That took about 6 weeks. By the end, they didn't notice the difference.


            I try to give them veggie-based carbs for meals - potatoes, sweet potatoes and squash. For snacks we have cheese, jerky (which they *love* BTW), yogurt and sometimes fruit. For breakfast they love fried eggs, bacon and sausage or coconut flour pancakes. Sometimes even unbreakfast-y things like chicken curry salad work for them.


            You can also make things like coconut flour muffins or almond-flour based things at least get them off of grain-based stuff. Warning: It works with one of my kids and not the other. Check out Elana's pantry for recipe suggestions. Just watch the sweetener. Her recipes are really sweet. Don't use the agave either. It's all fructose. Elana's pantry website is http://www.elanaspantry.com/ .


            Good luck!

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            • #21
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              I tried to convince my mother to stop smoking for years, but she was puffing away even as she knew she was dying of cancer.


              People will make their own decisions. Sometimes the best we can do is provide the information and a good example.

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              • #22
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                DebFM...I have to laugh at "My kids eat good stuff most of the time but will eat the occassional bowl of oatmeal" Two weeks ago a bowl of oatmeal WAS eating well here. I was into a low fat, high fiber way of thinking and have taught my kids well. Especially my oldest (the 6 year old) knows that he should be eating high fiber foods. So, now I'm untraining them. The cereals they eat are like raisin bran things like that...again high fiber. So at least I'm not having to wean them off high sugary cereals, but there is still some work to do.


                They do like yogurt, but are used to having granola in it (which I made at home...thinking I was being all healthy!), cheese, eggs, bacon...so I just need to start giving them more of that and less of the "norm" and we'll get there. With everything we've got going on over the next few months it's probably not the time to pull the rug out from underneath them and force them into something different. I'd like them to learn and love a Primal way of life, so a gentler transition will hopefully help with that.


                The good news is...they LOVE all the energy Mama has now. And I'm telling them it's because I'm eating in a really cool new, and healthy way. They're intrigued...so it's just a matter of time!

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                • #23
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                  I also live with a non-grok (my fiance) who is not much of a foodie or big eater, unlike me. He tries to eat 'healthy' but non-primally but since I do ALL the cooking, his dinners are always primal (I am a great cook and he doesn't complain.) I've showed him the websites, we've talked but he's still stuck in CW and thinks that my two daily eggs are not good for me, despite my protestations. (And once at his mother's house for breakfast I ate an apple and several generous handfuls of nuts nuts while the rest of them had white flour focaccia with coldcuts and cheese, and his mother freaked out because I "didn't eat anything for breakfast." Hello, I just ate like 500 calories' worth of nuts!)


                  One of the problems, however, is that I come from a big emotional eating family and food is a big way in which my mom showed me affection and in which I do as well. My fiance loves muffins, especially to take to work, and while I bake a lot (and usually try to primalize the recipes as much as possible) sometimes I don't. Then am I not only sabotaging myself (how can I resist my own peanut butter banana chocolate chip muffins that are fresh out of the oven?) but I also feel like a hypocrite because I'm feeding others things that I know are not good for me....

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                  • #24
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                    Elana's pantry is a pretty good place to start, but I find myself having outgrown her recipes when I became fully primal. For one, she emphasises using the polyunsaturaed oils in her cooking. Secondly, she is still on a bit of a lowfat kick and talks about only eating lean meats like chicken or turkey. Thirdly, agave. Need I say more? It's in every recipe. When I find myself have to paleoise her recipes even when she's supposed to be a paleo-diet blogger, then it's time to move on.

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                    • #25
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                      Yeah, I'm not a big fan of her recipes. I mean, her cracker recipe called for grapeseed oil?! I primalize my own recipes by using almond/coconut flour, and stevia or honey for sweetener if any. Every once in a while I make "regular" things for my non-groks because I still have flour and sugar sitting around in my cupboards. I have a huge sweet tooth and I do make primal desserts (like mousse or custard) but my fiance can't exactly take mousse to work for a snack, hence the semi-regular muffin making!

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                      • #26
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                        My flatmates are all very much non-Primal. Our kitchen is full of cereal boxes, vegetable oils, margarines, bread, extra lean meat, and pseudo-health-food like hemp oil (the bottle even states that it's high in omega 6 *facepalm*). I think I even saw a loaf of Weight Watchers bread once... WTF, why would any sort of bread have any place in the diet of someone who's watching their weight? And they always comment on the amount of meat I eat... I just live and let live really. I do wonder whether they think I'm in good health and shape because of, or despite, my diet, especially as they all seem to be in decent shape despite their diets.

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                        • #27
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                          Hi,

                          I live with a confirmed non-grok who also has no interest in changing. He's an adult and I will let him make his choices. As for the kids, I can't speak much to that (I have a dog who will pretty much eat what I put in front of her no questions asked!) But I do make my owv version of "cereal" that may or may not fit the bill in your household. Serving size 1 bowl (for an adult, you may want to cut back for the kids) 1/2 cup raw thinly sliced almonds (Trader Joe brand), 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 tbl. unsweetened shredded coconut, 2 tbl ground flax. I top mune with almond milk but if you don't mind the kids doing dairy then I guess any milk will suffice. Every once in a while I add 1-2 tbl of dried bing cherries also. Captain crunch it aint but it's pretty good when you want a bowl of cereal.

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                          • #28
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                            kjake55...thanks. My kids would totally go for that. The cereals they eat now are very similar, lots of nuts and dried fruit. Half the time they eat it without milk anyway and leave the flakes...so your little concoction would be a great transitional breakfast.

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                            • #29
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                              I have been primal for 2 months now. My wife is not quite primal yet. She is getting closer and understands everything, but she is 34 weeks pregnant and she has some cravings that she gives in to. And quite frankly I am not going to stand in the way. It sadly has led to me not eating primal a few times, but overall I have done pretty good. As soon as our daughter is born she is going to start eating primal with me.

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                              • #30
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                                i'm totally stealing kjake's idea too!

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