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  • #16
    Originally posted by peril View Post
    I work for a mobile phone company that provides services to an electricity company for smart meters. From the traffic profile, my guess is that the meters are each making one call to report their data per day. It is in the small hours. The impact has to be negligible. YMMV but think about it - the electricity companies aren't going to pay for any more phone calls than they need to, even at a negotiated discount rate, and the phone companies aren't going to support a large volume of traffic from the meters at their peak time without charging appropriately

    We all have much bigger issues
    The ones here in Nevada trasmit individually in a burst about every 15 minutes to a kind of "collector", then along phone lines to the company.

    Yeah, it would cost a crapload of money to be constantly transmitting. To be honest, I think one of the scariest things in the average home is the cordless phone, though I'm still hating on the smart meters for my own reasons.
    Durp.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
      When they come to install it just keep the door closed and say "fuck off".
      Sadly, out here we have contracted out for the majority of the residential work. I've heard stories from homeowners of telling the installers "no", then finding one the next day when they come home from work. Not cool. It's better to call and get put on a list if they'll let you do that. Then you can call and get it removed. Though telling them to fuck off could be gratifying too.

      You should see the extremes people go to, though. I've seen people literally build iron cages around their meters, and I've seen it more than once. They REALLY don't want them.
      Durp.

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      • #18
        "Trespassers will be eviscerated"?
        In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
          "Trespassers will be eviscerated"?
          I saw one handwritten sign (which somehow made it creepier) that said "You are on camera and will be shot" in both English and Spanish. Makes you think twice.
          Durp.

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          • #20
            Meh, I've been stabbed in the heart so I'm not too scared.
            In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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            • #21
              We're supposed to be getting those smart meters at some stage the house we used to live in (way out in a small town in the middle of nowhere) got one first though (weird...I guess cause the meter guys don't wanna have to drive so far out so they do the more distant places first??). I'm not happy because the meter is also outside our bedroom (not so bad that it's right behind the bed... but close enough, to us and the kids).

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
                When they come to install it just keep the door closed and say "fuck off".
                I dunno where you live, but where I live they're not gonna come in the house to install it In fact, odds are they'd get there and do it during the day when no one's home...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Iron Fireling View Post
                  I dunno where you live, but where I live they're not gonna come in the house to install it In fact, odds are they'd get there and do it during the day when no one's home...
                  Yep. Most times the only way you know is that the clock on your coffeemaker is blinking. It only takes about a minute, and that's if you do it the right way.
                  Durp.

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                  • #24
                    Our power company installed our smart meter about 2 years ago. We had no say in the matter. Since our meter is on the outside of the front of our house, we didn't even have to be at home. There have been stories that they want to charge us for it even though it was forced upon us. Also, one of the news stories reported that the old meters were sold to a third world country for $1 a piece. People are not happy. Our electric bill went up, but more due to de-regulation that went into effect rather than a new meter.

                    Peak usage times are changing because "everybody" works during the day and does all their housework at night, so that's when the most electricity is used.

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                    • #25
                      I'm calling BS on this 'smash the meter' or 'shoot the utility worker' nonsense. You don't go to the store and tell the clerk what kind of cash register to use, or insist that a gas station use an analog meter on their gas pumps. Grow up. If you're that much of a rugged individualist, you should be off-grid.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Nicator View Post
                        I'm calling BS on this 'smash the meter' or 'shoot the utility worker' nonsense. You don't go to the store and tell the clerk what kind of cash register to use, or insist that a gas station use an analog meter on their gas pumps. Grow up. If you're that much of a rugged individualist, you should be off-grid.
                        Those don't affect you. From what I've read, these meters are potentially unsafe.
                        In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                        • #27
                          Our meter is on the outside of the house and accessible without having to pass through a fence or anything. So one day the new meter was there. I haven't noticed anything, but who knows what it's doing to me.
                          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Nicator View Post
                            I'm calling BS on this 'smash the meter' or 'shoot the utility worker' nonsense. You don't go to the store and tell the clerk what kind of cash register to use, or insist that a gas station use an analog meter on their gas pumps. Grow up. If you're that much of a rugged individualist, you should be off-grid.
                            +1.

                            "Somebody is delivering electrical power that is useful for nearly any conceivable task, in quantities orders of magnitude larger than I could produce with my own labor, for pennies a day! And they want to charge me accurately for it!?! Woe is meeeeee!"

                            RitaRose, I am sorry you are going to lose your job. That sucks. But when has any new technology ever not lost somebody a job?

                            Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                            Our meter is on the outside of the house and accessible without having to pass through a fence or anything. So one day the new meter was there. I haven't noticed anything, but who knows what it's doing to me.
                            Absolutely nothing, probably.
                            Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Uncephalized View Post
                              RitaRose, I am sorry you are going to lose your job. That sucks. But when has any new technology ever not lost somebody a job?
                              Thanks. On the bright side, it's the push I need to start working with animals like I've always wanted, though at much lower pay. Honestly, I think it will be worth it.
                              Durp.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Uncephalized View Post
                                But when has any new technology ever not lost somebody a job?
                                Flint knapping?
                                In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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