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    The grain-free food we get for our German Shepherd is about $2/lb anyway so today I bought a bunch of chicken and ground beef that was $2/lb just figuring that "fresh" is better anyway. I'm still poking around for cheaper cuts of meat but that's not the main question.

    Question: Is there any benefit or detriment to cooking the meat before giving it to her? I know she'll generally be fine with bits of raw meat, but what about larger portions of likely CAFO meat? And is it any different for chicken or beef?

    I suppose that I know a lot of people feed raw - what's the reason behind it? Convenience? and is the animal missing out or benefiting from it?

    I'm kind of planning on portioning it out into individual servings and keeping them frozen, and just giving her a chunk of frozen beef/chicken to gnaw on - give her something to do while we're at work. How do you do it?

    Here she is, by the way:
    Last edited by carlh; 02-28-2012, 03:25 PM.
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    Pretty dog! Even if her tapeta lucida make her look like a demon in the camera flash.

    Just make sure you don't cook anything with bones in it. Raw bones crack into chunks, but cooked bones can splinter into sharp shards. No good on the ol' digestive tract, and dogs, being generally morons, will just gulp them down.

    I feed mine mostly skin-on, bone-in chicken, with a significant amount of chicken eggs, beef liver, and miscellaneous meat and gristle scraps from our dinners. He does great on it, good coat and teeth, lots of energy, mild breath. No issues so far.
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    • #3
      I think the benefit to raw is that you can feed them the bones too, which have the marrow and other good nutrients. My sister has a huge German Shepherd that she feeds 100% raw. He is super healthy and seems to be doing great on it. He's never eaten dog food before. Sometimes they give him a frozen chunk, especially if it is hot outside (we live in Georgia). Normally they let it defrost though. They'll just dump out the pile of chicken thighs or whatever and let him go to town.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by KimInGA View Post
        I think the benefit to raw is that you can feed them the bones too, which have the marrow and other good nutrients. My sister has a huge German Shepherd that she feeds 100% raw. He is super healthy and seems to be doing great on it. He's never eaten dog food before. Sometimes they give him a frozen chunk, especially if it is hot outside (we live in Georgia). Normally they let it defrost though. They'll just dump out the pile of chicken thighs or whatever and let him go to town.
        Yep, that's what we do. Chicken thighs (or backs if you can get them) are usually a good deal, too.
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        • #5
          My parents' dogs have pretty much always had raw meat and bones. There's really no need to cook it, since a dog's gut is designed to handle the bacteria present in raw meat. And raw bones are excellent for a dog's dental health. Even a mostly or all CAFO raw meat and bones diet puts dogs and cats way ahead of the standard in terms of health and longevity. The only time our dogs go to the vet is when they need more heartworm preventive!

          Big bags of chicken leg quarters are a great deal. If you have a good butcher you can ask for odd cuts and trim pieces. Offal is excellent too, and dogs LOVE it. We call chicken livers "puppy candy".

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          • #6
            That is a good point about leaving frozen stuff for hot summer days. I like that. I think I'll just keep a big ziplock bag of chicken and beef in the fridge. Wad for the dog, wad for my skillet. That's what I did tonight when I got home. I gave her a fist sized lump mixed in with her normal dog food and mashed another fist sized lump in my skillet for a giant burger.

            I can get her a great deal at the public market; a big sack full of sectioned up cow femurs (with marrow, fat, all that good stuff) for $4.
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            • #7
              ...and it looks like I'll have to adjust her to it more slowly than I was hoping, seeing as I was up at 5 this morning cleaning dog poo off my staircase landing.

              German Sheperds can have surprisingly delicate digestive systems. Baby steps!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by carlh View Post
                ...and it looks like I'll have to adjust her to it more slowly than I was hoping, seeing as I was up at 5 this morning cleaning dog poo off my staircase landing.

                German Sheperds can have surprisingly delicate digestive systems. Baby steps!
                Haha, yeah, that can happen. Kibble and canned food is pretty much sterile compared to raw meat and probably a different set of enzymes need to be ramped up to handle the digestion properly, too. I would do the slow replacement thing rather than a wholesale switch if I were you, but you probably figured that out.
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                • #9
                  Hey Carlh,

                  I too have a german shepherd that we're thinking about getting off the processed dog food. She's 4 1/2 yrs old and is looking mighty thick. We switched her to one of the grain free foods, but i think they're still really high in carbs. Hows the raw food going with your shepherd? What's working so far? Would love to know how it's going.

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                  • #10
                    Also, do you have a sense of how much by weight you're feeding your dog per day? The "wild" grain free stuff is expensive. We basically go through 15 lb bag in 2 weeks, so she's roughly eating a pound per day and still always hungry!

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                    • #11
                      We have two German Shepherds we converted to a raw diet-a combination of meat from the store and grass fed chubs of pet food. They also get a raw egg on top. Even though we had them on a high quality dry food before, the change in their coat was amazing and waste product was decreased greatly.
                      One of the two does have "cannon butt" after changes in food so gradual changes are best.
                      There is a raw feeding group on Yahoo that has a lot of good information on this.

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                      • #12
                        It's going okay - we are cutting her food about half and half with really just anything that's more meaty; raw or not. She'll get occasional bits of left over chicken, lots of scraps...that sort of thing. In addition to raw stuff. So, half a pound of "food" and half a pound of "dog food"? Ish.
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                        • #13
                          My beloved German Shepard lived close to 18 years. I put her on the raw diet when she was about ten.

                          My current lab/pit bull is all raw. Just found out that the whole food market in my town sells grassfed hearts and kidneys for 2 bucks a pound. He loves the organ meats and marrow bones.

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                          • #14
                            A good point to start from is 2% of the dogs adult body weight, you can then adjust as needed for the indivigual dogs needs.
                            My German Shepard (85lbs of high energy) eats pretty much the same amount as my Mastiff (170lbs of low energy)
                            (they both get around 2lbs a day each)

                            Also dont feed kibble and meat together, they digest at a difrent rate and can cause problems if fed together. If feeding both you want to split into 2 seperate meals but it might make transitioning to raw take longer for her to get used to.
                            You might be better of feeding smaller amounts, more often to ease her ono the raw.. Or just plan on dealing with a few accedents while her system adjust to real food.
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                            • #15
                              Just FYI there's a lot of into from primal pet owners (both owners and pets are primal hehe) in this thread
                              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread47636.html
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