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    Hey All!

    So I've always been eating healthy and avoided consuming wheat, grains, and... rice. However, when my mom sees what I eat, she would comment that our genes are different from those of Caucasians. Foods that make them stronger and healthier doesn't mean they do the same for us.

    I just want to know if there are any Asians here on the Primal Blueprint and how it benefitted them... I want to make sure that our genes apply to this theory. I've been on and off, mainly because I don't feel the vitality that everyone keeps talking about when they do BP. In fact, I think I get more tired... Then when I eat rice or some bread, I get more energetic.

    I just want to know that if I stick to this, I can feel energetic without depending on coffee. I want to know that my brain can stop having that "fogginess" and stay clear all the time, especially since I'm a student. I know we all had a common ancestor at some point, but perhaps genetic drift changed our gene pool so much, we can actually consume grains?

    Thanks in advance

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    Originally posted by JBitzz View Post
    Hey All!

    So I've always been eating healthy and avoided consuming wheat, grains, and... rice. However, when my mom sees what I eat, she would comment that our genes are different from those of Caucasians. Foods that make them stronger and healthier doesn't mean they do the same for us.

    I just want to know if there are any Asians here on the Primal Blueprint and how it benefitted them... I want to make sure that our genes apply to this theory. I've been on and off, mainly because I don't feel the vitality that everyone keeps talking about when they do BP. In fact, I think I get more tired... Then when I eat rice or some bread, I get more energetic.

    I just want to know that if I stick to this, I can feel energetic without depending on coffee. I want to know that my brain can stop having that "fogginess" and stay clear all the time, especially since I'm a student. I know we all had a common ancestor at some point, but perhaps genetic drift changed our gene pool so much, we can actually consume grains?

    Thanks in advance
    Evolutionarily speaking, it is possible that a minority adapted to grains. However, how would you tell if you were in that minority? Grains and refined sugar have caused the 'diseases of civilization' in ALL races. Sometimes, you can even be healthy on the outside when it is destroying your insides. How would you know you are part of that minority? (even if it exists, which I basically doubt)

    Anecdotally, I've heard that the Phillipines has some of the worst diabetes rates in the world. They're Asian.
    Last edited by wiltondeportes; 02-02-2012, 10:10 PM.

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    • #3
      Well I'm of Okinawan decent (different from Japanese) and I can easily say that cutting back on the rice a little has really benefited me. I haven't given up all grains I've just found a better balance. Then again I did a gradual phase out to where I'm only eating big amounts of carbs for one meal (so rice for lunch) and the other meals as little carbs as possible. Would it be weird to ask what kind of Asian you are? We are all slightly different in our development.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JBitzz View Post
        I just want to know if there are any Asians here on the Primal Blueprint and how it benefitted them... I want to make sure that our genes apply to this theory. I've been on and off, mainly because I don't feel the vitality that everyone keeps talking about when they do BP. In fact, I think I get more tired... Then when I eat rice or some bread, I get more energetic.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kunko View Post
          Well I'm of Okinawan decent (different from Japanese) and I can easily say that cutting back on the rice a little has really benefited me. I haven't given up all grains I've just found a better balance. Then again I did a gradual phase out to where I'm only eating big amounts of carbs for one meal (so rice for lunch) and the other meals as little carbs as possible. Would it be weird to ask what kind of Asian you are? We are all slightly different in our development.
          I'm Chinese and I've never really ate that much rice. I cut it off complete when I started going Primal, but I do find that when I some rice to my meals, I feel fuller and get more energetic.

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          • #6
            White rice is pure starch. The ONLY thing it can do for your body is supply it with calories. This is NOT a bad thing if you are very active and need the energy. But if it displaces more nutrient-dense food in your diet, that's bad. The logic of this is the same no matter where your great-grandma came from. Replacing rice in your diet with stuff that gives you energy PLUS essential protein, vitamins, minerals, and fats (meat, seafood, organs, vegetables) is a good thing, also no matter where your grandparents came from.

            If you really want to eat ethno-specifically, you could just eat more seafood instead of beef or whatever. Lots of fish and such in traditional Pacific cuisines.
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            • #7
              Asian here! See my success:
              http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29552058/Paleo%20Story.pdf

              Since then, I've made even more progress.

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              • #8
                check out nom nom paleo, and fitbomb. google it!

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                • #9
                  I'm South Korean(half) and have lost considerable weight doing the Primal Blueprint. I still eat rice occasionally(once or twice a week if at all) but the servings are drastically reduced. Sounds like you are describing going through carb flu which I have no experience with.

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                  • #10
                    I don't think it benefits us to put all grains in a single category. White rice is pretty benign. It's just empty, quickly used carbs. Maybe your body needs a bit of that. It is not interchangeable with bread which is much more likely to cause problems. And if you want to get traditional, wheat was not nearly as common in East Asia as rice and tubers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Uncephalized View Post
                      White rice is pure starch. The ONLY thing it can do for your body is supply it with calories. This is NOT a bad thing if you are very active and need the energy. But if it displaces more nutrient-dense food in your diet, that's bad. The logic of this is the same no matter where your great-grandma came from. Replacing rice in your diet with stuff that gives you energy PLUS essential protein, vitamins, minerals, and fats (meat, seafood, organs, vegetables) is a good thing, also no matter where your grandparents came from.

                      If you really want to eat ethno-specifically, you could just eat more seafood instead of beef or whatever. Lots of fish and such in traditional Pacific cuisines.
                      ^^^This. Certain ethnicities would handle levels of carbohydrate slightly better than others, but at heart we're all mostly the same regardless of what we "look like". This is an example of cultural bias over reality. Don't let it derail you. There is no reason to eat an ethnic diet, and not doing so will not make you a bad person. When my grandmother makes pasta for the family, I eat meatballs, sausage and salad. I haven't had her pasta in about a year and I rarely miss it. Even though it is awesome.
                      Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                      • #12
                        I've read on multiple web sites that Asians have larger pancreas than europeans or africans. Africans having the smallest pancreas of all.
                        This is why african-americans have higher diabetes rates than caucasian-americans.

                        I've read that the ratio of upper body to lower body has something to do with this, too. The larger/longer your upper body and shorter your legs the more likely you have a larger pancreas and can tolerate a higher carb diet longer without becoming diabetic.
                        Africans seems to have long legs and shorter upper bodies, which would give them the smallest pancreas.

                        Not sure if this is all true, just things I've been reading around on the net.

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                        • #13
                          this is racist, man.

                          black, african, asian: identical.

                          race is only a social construct, to bring silly things like genetics into it is racism, you should be in jail.

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                          • #14
                            I don't think it benefits us to put all grains in a single category.
                            It probably also doesn't benefit us to put all Asians in a single category. I've known Asians who eat mostly meat and vegetables. Nary a rice grain to be found.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dado View Post
                              this is racist, man.

                              black, african, asian: identical.

                              race is only a social construct, to bring silly things like genetics into it is racism, you should be in jail.
                              We are almost identical, gene-wise. However, it's that small percentage of different genes that has made all the difference. I would say the social construct is seeing just "skin color" as the defining marker of a race. That's just one phenotype to consider.

                              I don't see what's wrong with believing there are races though. Clearly, people have different physical traits throughout the world, and they can be grouped in clusters that we might deem a race.

                              The reason you lash out at the thought of this is our modern culture has been speaking in your ear.

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