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    The Smartie sandwich: Shocking filling found in packed lunch sparks new healthy eating drive | Mail Online

    I like how they assume the mother did this, never mind the father, but misogyny aside...
    No one can argue that a smartie sandwich is healthy or suitable. But instances like these provoke the usual cries of "ban them! regulate them! oblige school-provided meals!".
    But then of course enforced school meals would be full of hearthealthywholegrains and yummycanolaoil.

    So how do we reconcile "our" freedom to provide fatty, meat laden, high protein food, with this parent's freedom to provide junk?

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    Primal living, one person at a time would be my answer. But I guess we're already trying.
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    • #3
      The entire article lost me here:
      But not only have the free school meals seen children eating more healthy lunchtime options such as pasta, baked potatoes and lean meat, it is also said to have improved behaviour.
      Primal will NEVER be the norm in school lunches. It's far to expensive, and kids will hate it anyway. Just look at the trash cans in the cafeteria -- that's where you'll find the veggies.

      BTW those aren't even Smarties... they're Skittles. Maybe candy is different in the UK?

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      • #4
        Abolish the NHS.

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        • #5
          Those are definitely Smarties. Skittles are brighter colours and have an 'S' on each one...
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          • #6
            This is what Smarties look like:

            smarties..jpg

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NorthernMonkeyGirl View Post
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              The Smartie sandwich: Shocking filling found in packed lunch sparks new healthy eating drive | Mail Online

              I like how they assume the mother did this, never mind the father, but misogyny aside...
              No one can argue that a smartie sandwich is healthy or suitable. But instances like these provoke the usual cries of "ban them! regulate them! oblige school-provided meals!".
              But then of course enforced school meals would be full of hearthealthywholegrains and yummycanolaoil.

              So how do we reconcile "our" freedom to provide fatty, meat laden, high protein food, with this parent's freedom to provide junk?
              What misogyny?
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              Starting Weight: 294 pounds
              Current Weight: 235 pounds
              Goal Weight: 195 pounds

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              • #8
                Smarties in Canada, and I guess the UK, are candy coated chocolate things. Sort of like M&Ms but better. Those are Smarties. I'm an elementary school teacher and Ive seen students with white sugar sandwiches. So that means bread with butter (at least there's butter) and white sugar sprinkled on.

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                • #9
                  I'm not sure it's the school's responsibility the monitor what kids bring to school (save for illegal items such as alcohol & tobacco). Of course candy in a sandwich is obviously unhealthy, but that's the result of poor parenting, imo, not the result of a poor school nutrition program. The food came from the home, not the cafeteria. I remember my best friend eating peanut butter and marshmallow fluff sandwiches daily for lunch in middle school! Not sure this is much better than a smarty sandwich. ;o)

                  I agree school provided lunches should be re-vamped and inlcude more fresh veggies & fruit, and meat with less fried & breaded options. Unfortunately, the public school system may see this as an expense outside their budgets. I would also like to see more basic nutrition education at the elementary level - I've seen none of it in our schools. In middle school, there was some, but vending machines still lined the cafeteria along with pizza and fried pork sandwiches always daily options for paying kids.

                  I feel like its a daily struggle with my kids to promote healthy eating choices outside our home. But it's in the home where good nutrition starts, not in school. I see school as a venue to support and promote nutrition, but its not the first or last stop.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BananaLeaf View Post
                    I'm an elementary school teacher and Ive seen students with white sugar sandwiches. So that means bread with butter (at least there's butter) and white sugar sprinkled on.


                    Socialist welfare programs like the NHS will always fail. Healthcare is not expensive because people are eating smartie sandwiches, it's expensive because its government and they make money through theft, not by actually providing a useful service.

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                    • #11
                      They're smarties



                      Nothing to do with the NHS so a bit disappointed the ol' evilsocialistcommunistgub'ment argument has appeared.

                      I was more interested in...how can I say this... freedom means freedom to be stupid, so is it acceptable to let people suffer (sugar-fed-child) in order to protect our freedoms? Or do we swing too far the other way and say "Every child must have a school meal" which ensures the worst off kids get *something* but also means Primal Kid faces the SAD? Where do we draw the line?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NorthernMonkeyGirl View Post
                        I was more interested in...how can I say this... freedom means freedom to be stupid, so is it acceptable to let people suffer (sugar-fed-child) in order to protect our freedoms? Or do we swing too far the other way and say "Every child must have a school meal" which ensures the worst off kids get *something* but also means Primal Kid faces the SAD? Where do we draw the line?
                        The reason why the worst off kids are so bad off is because of all the government programs like "free" lunches.

                        You act as if without government every child in the country will be eating sugar sandwiches as their main meal.

                        We have one example out of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people where one kid has some candy in their lunch as a dessert. How is this shocking in any way whatsoever?

                        What is shocking is the NHS coming in and doing some study based on one child's dessert packed in their lunch and coming to the conclusion that the government needs to dictate what you eat.

                        Please.
                        Last edited by Grok; 01-29-2012, 11:41 AM. Reason: fix spelling

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                        • #13
                          A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.

                          - Thomas Jefferson

                          If a person feels so strongly about kids eating junk food then they should take it upon themselves to stop the parents. They may get locked up but at least they're acting on their principles.

                          They should not be forcing their "goodwill" on everyone else by enlisting the government to do their bidding in the name of their idea of "the greater good".

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Grok View Post
                            Socialist welfare programs like the NHS will always fail. Healthcare is not expensive because people are eating smartie sandwiches, it's expensive because its government and they make money through theft, not by actually providing a useful service.
                            First, awesome Breakfast Club reference. Second...yeah, try living in a country without universal health care. Lost your job and can't afford insurance? Good luck with that $16,000 hospital bill.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Grok View Post
                              The reason why the worst off kids are so bad off is because of all the government programs like "free" lunches.
                              I disagree. Some families are wilfully ignorant - so yes assume that others will pick up the slack; some are too busy scraping together rent money or caring for Granny etc etc...

                              Originally posted by Grok View Post
                              You act as if without government every child in the country will be eating sugar sandwiches as their main meal.
                              Um. Not what I said at all. But you'd be happy for that to happen?

                              Originally posted by Grok View Post
                              We have one example out of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people where one kid has some candy in their lunch as a dessert. How is this shocking in any way whatsoever?
                              It's the Daily Fail, it thrives on shock value. I just thought it was an interesting "version" of some of the threads I have seen on here, where primal parents have had trouble sending the right food in, or having their child given the right food.

                              Originally posted by Grok View Post
                              What is shocking is the NHS coming in and doing some study based on one child's dessert packed in their lunch and coming to the conclusion that the government needs to dictate what you eat.
                              I'd love to know which article you read, because that's not even there! Nothing to do with the NHS in the slightest, no study..... ??

                              Originally posted by Grok View Post
                              Please.
                              Yeeeeeah.

                              So in terms of my original enquiry, you favour the "every man for himself" approach?

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