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  • Originally posted by IvyBlue View Post
    It's not so much the feminization of men as the infantalization of the entire culture. If everyone expects to be taken care of, who is to do the caring?

    I'm most likely going to live to see a society where most people are obese with only a few outliers that can bend over to tie their shoes with a world of consequences I shudder to think about.
    This is one half the problem. The other half is that environmental factors have decreased testosterone to the point that modern males have ~ half the testosterone of their grandfathers.
    A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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    • I just read an excellent article about this by Eric Peters:

      Fuuuuhhhhhhhtttball: The Modern Two Minutes’ Hate | Eric Peters Autos

      The article is about how American males have been mentally casterated by, not females but by the whole system in the USA of don't resist, obey everything.

      The contrast between males in the USA and in other countries that I have worked in is obvious. Here in Egypt, boys get in fights in school, life goes on. In the USA both sides are punished, often with criminal charges.

      I also wrote about this on my blog: Where have all the warriors gone? : Hardcore Mind

      I'm afraid the trend is set, I don't seem men getting their balls back anytime soon. And it ain't the women's fault either.
      Randal
      AKA: Texas Grok

      Originally posted by texas.grok
      Facebook is to intelligence what a black hole is to light
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      • Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
        I'm a big fan of "manly men" in all of their various forms, but I can still see Zanna's point.

        It's a little disheartening to read posts saying (in a nutshell) that the worst thing that could happen to the human race would be for it to become more like the women members. If you would say the same thing about it turning too masculine, I might understand a little better. I think we all have our roles, and a glut of either testosterone or estrogen makes for an imbalance.
        Originally posted by Zanna View Post
        Thanks, RitaRose. That's what I meant but didn't articulate well. The men I am talking about have nothing in common with women or femininity - they are men, but men who lack the drive to take care of themselves physically or to be self-sufficient. I swear, self-sufficiency and caring about how you treat your body are the sexiest things to me these days. The self-sufficient types tend to have the manly thing I like going on.
        The difference is that men run the economy. They have since the dawn of civilization, and they created civilization itself! We're more logical and physically stronger on average. Even in an age where more women get degrees than men, men still dominate the actually productive fields, the STEM fields.

        A feminized society becomes a bunch of people satisfied with doing just enough to get by. A bunch of people that will submit to bad people with a great deal of power (ie terrorists, pillaging thieves, totalitarian rulers). A bunch of people that also become a 'bonobo masturbation society' because, once women no longer need a man to provide for them, they look for men that give good sex and occasional conversation. Women seek hypergamy as they never finds a satisfying masculine partner.

        A masculinized society becomes a bunch of people with great drive to succeed. Innovation. They don't take crap from anybody. The men may often seek women because of her sexual attraction, but couples stay together.

        Can we draw any more parallels here? Masculinized=America of yore, Feminized=America of today?

        Without manly men, we would be in straw huts right now. Without computers. Without running water. Without even a food surplus stored. We would be hunting and foraging for food and having sex whenever enough food was found that the people felt fertile and frisky enough.
        Last edited by wiltondeportes; 11-11-2012, 12:33 AM.

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        • For all of you who are saying "Oh, it's not feminization"..... Yes, it IS feminization. I haven't decided if this issue is the panacea or cure-all for society, but I am right.

          Maybe the way I would put it is this: the process (cultural Marxism) that created this feminization IS the unpanacea or singular virus that is killing our society.
          Last edited by wiltondeportes; 11-11-2012, 12:41 AM.

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          • wilton, you are hilarious
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
            lol

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            • Originally posted by wiltondeportes View Post
              Without manly men, we would be in straw huts right now. Without computers. Without running water. Without even a food surplus stored. We would be hunting and foraging for food and having sex whenever enough food was found that the people felt fertile and frisky enough.
              IOW, paleo.
              Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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              • Originally posted by wiltondeportes View Post
                The difference is that men run the economy. They have since the dawn of civilization, and they created civilization itself! We're more logical and physically stronger on average. Even in an age where more women get degrees than men, men still dominate the actually productive fields, the STEM fields.

                A feminized society becomes a bunch of people satisfied with doing just enough to get by. A bunch of people that will submit to bad people with a great deal of power (ie terrorists, pillaging thieves, totalitarian rulers). A bunch of people that also become a 'bonobo masturbation society' because, once women no longer need a man to provide for them, they look for men that give good sex and occasional conversation. Women seek hypergamy as they never finds a satisfying masculine partner.

                A masculinized society becomes a bunch of people with great drive to succeed. Innovation. They don't take crap from anybody. The men may often seek women because of her sexual attraction, but couples stay together.

                Can we draw any more parallels here? Masculinized=America of yore, Feminized=America of today?

                Without manly men, we would be in straw huts right now. Without computers. Without running water. Without even a food surplus stored. We would be hunting and foraging for food and having sex whenever enough food was found that the people felt fertile and frisky enough.
                I would argue the point, but that would involve me getting up and not accepting the status quo. Since I'm a women and we have no drive (not to mention readily submitting to bad people with power), I guess I just don't do that. So carry on while I sip my tea and watch some soap operas...
                Durp.

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                  • Masculinity and femininity are not socially imprinted. The (general) behavior differences and values that differentiate men and women are genetic.
                    Excerpts from Brain Sex

                    Here's a debate on that
                    Would I be putting a grain-feed cow on a fad diet if I took it out of the feedlot and put it on pasture eating the grass nature intended?

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                    • Originally posted by Blackcatbone View Post
                      IOW, paleo.
                      The good ole days weren't always good.

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                      • Originally posted by wiltondeportes View Post
                        The good ole days weren't always good.
                        And to further that Billy Joel quote, "tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems." I'm afraid you're tilting at the wrong windmill. Feminism isn't the problem. The actual problem is what came flying out of the pandora's box that you yourself stated is man-made. Civilization and technology. The world has evolved into a state where brawn is less important than brains in sustaining one's self. If you want to go back to the good ol' days then you need to stuff that back into the box, give up all the modern advances that you're so fond of, including the agrarian revolution (hello grains) which allowed for the amassing of food and the slow creep towards the accumulation of knowledge. (Good luck with that.) If anything, we're coming full circle back to our origins in a more egalitarian society. I'd say we're in the process of shrugging off the hangover from the last 10,000 years of false social structure. It's just taking some longer to adapt to the idea than others.
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                        • no blackcatbone. NO. that's NOT HOW IT IS. it's NOT MANKIND'S FAULT, IT'S WIMMINKIND'S FAULT CAUSE WE'RE MAKING ALL THE BOYS INTO LITTLE GIRLS
                          beautiful
                          yeah you are

                          Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                          lol

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                          • Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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                            • i am sold. where can i find those hose?
                              beautiful
                              yeah you are

                              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                              lol

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                              • I bought the last pair and am making my boyfriend wear them.
                                Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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