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    So I read that Raw ala Prey or some other one that I don't remember the name of is best for my dog...well I didn't want to go through the trouble to do raw feeding so I figured the next best thing was a good grain free dog food. I chose Taste of the Wild as I've heard good things about it.

    Well I also heard it would improve coat....don't notice it..but maybe it has....also that they usually eat less of it or need less of it?...Confused as I have been feeding them the same 1 cup per meal 2 meals a day for 2 cups a day total. I haven't noticed if the Male is changing any but the female looks more bony around the ribs as if she isn't getting enough food. I'm paying more for food now and its hard to tell that they are better off. I don't like how i can see her ribs. I thought I was supposed to have to feed them less but feeding the same amount is what lead to this should I feed more...

    They are not sticking out a ton but they show more than I would think they should. Should I get a picture to post or anyone have any ideas?
    Age: 28
    Height: 6'1"
    Primal start date: July 1st 2011
    Start Weight: 275
    Current Weight: 248
    Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
    Body Fat 25.4%
    Fat Mass 63.721
    Fat Free Mass 74.6%
    Fat Free Mass 187.087
    Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
    Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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    Showing ribs is ok, showing hip bones is not.
    Different dogs will need different amounts of food, they have different metabolisms. Most people(including vets) are so used to seeing overweight dogs - they think that a fit one is emaciated.

    Posting a picture from the side and one looking down on the dog, over it's back will help.

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    • #3
      Is the female more active than the male? Have you had her checked for worms lately? Age differences? Breed? There are many possibilities why. Also, as for cost, if you're a member of Costco they have a grain free dog food that's basically the same as Taste of the Wild but less expensive. Made in the same factory even.
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      • #4
        I'd love to see pictures of your dog, just for fun!

        I wanted my little 10 lb. maltese to be a primal wolf, so I fed him Blue Buffalo Wilderness (grain free) for a while. He LOVED eating it, but unfortunately it gave him some anal gland trouble. TMI, but there was lots of scooting involved. I've switched him to Blue Buffalo chicken and rice, which has no corn, wheat, or soy, and he seems to be loving that and no more scooting.
        28, female, 5'2"
        Went primal 7/28/10: 154 lbs.
        1/12/12: 135 lbs.
        Goal: 120 lbs.

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        • #5
          I am personally getting mixed results with Taste of the Wild myself. I recently transitioned the dogs to a new grain free food to see how that goes (Canidea's newest grain free line). Its way too early to tell the results.

          I don't know if it is so much the food, but the individual dogs digestion to a set of particular ingredients. I have two very senior dogs and one hyper middle age dog. While the younger dog is fine weight wise, I have had a harder time keeping weight on the older dogs with TOTW. So I am just going to start going through the different foods until I find one that works for our crew's needs. Like another person mentioned, I might even move over to a meat and rice based option if the grain free ones cannot keep weight on the older dogs.
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          • #6
            Why waste money on commercial dog food when you can feed your dog raw meaty(unprocessed) bones? You wouldn't eat garbage out of a bag. Why make your dog do the same? Buford loves whole chickens, beef hearts, soup bones with the marrow... still working on getting him to eat liver though.

            His teeth are immaculate from all of the chewing of his food that he has to do.

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            • #7
              Its easier?...Not all of have time to shop around so we can get it at a decent price. I don't even own my own car to shop around. You sound a tad judgmental. Whatever I have perfectly good reasons as far as I'm concerned. I'll work on some pictures when I can but the camera I usually have my sister use to take pictures of me which I asked her to take pictures of the dogs with ran out of battery.
              Age: 28
              Height: 6'1"
              Primal start date: July 1st 2011
              Start Weight: 275
              Current Weight: 248
              Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
              Body Fat 25.4%
              Fat Mass 63.721
              Fat Free Mass 74.6%
              Fat Free Mass 187.087
              Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
              Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hardwarehank View Post
                Why waste money on commercial dog food when you can feed your dog raw meaty(unprocessed) bones? You wouldn't eat garbage out of a bag. Why make your dog do the same?.
                Personally, we fed our dogs raw for about 4 years, the husband asked to go back to kibble. They are his dogs in the end, his choice. At 150lbs of meat a month its a lot of work.

                We supplement with raw and some cooked meats & veggies with their kibble, but it only makes up about 10-20% of their diet now.

                So you never really know the situation.

                The cats though have been raw fed 100% for 9 years. The cats had a far more positive reaction to being fed raw over kibble as compared to the dogs. To be honest, I find while the dogs thrived on raw, they also thrived on decent kibble plus. This is coming from someone who is a huge raw advocate.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lily Marie View Post
                  Showing ribs is ok, showing hip bones is not.
                  Different dogs will need different amounts of food, they have different metabolisms. Most people(including vets) are so used to seeing overweight dogs - they think that a fit one is emaciated.

                  Posting a picture from the side and one looking down on the dog, over it's back will help.
                  I agree, a pic would be great...

                  Hip bones absolutely should be easily felt, though, and show slightly. If those hip bones are well padded, the dog is F-A-T.

                  Depending on your dog's body type (to a degree) as a gauge, this is a very fit little dog:

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                  • #10
                    So you never really know the situation.

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                    • #11
                      The amount of food you are feeding your dog depends on the weight of him. When my dog was being fed kibble he was fed 4 cups a day (2 cups twice a day) and he weighs around 82lb. I have since given that up and he is now fed prey model raw, but you've got to do what is best for your dog, budget and circumstances.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Raiken3712 View Post
                        Its easier?...Not all of have time to shop around so we can get it at a decent price. I don't even own my own car to shop around. You sound a tad judgmental. Whatever I have perfectly good reasons as far as I'm concerned. I'll work on some pictures when I can but the camera I usually have my sister use to take pictures of me which I asked her to take pictures of the dogs with ran out of battery.
                        I do regret the judgmental tone I used last night but if you can buy food for yourself I would assume you can buy food for your dog at the same time. I don't know what prices are like in Texas but I can feed my dog raw(no anti-biotics, hormones, grass-fed if applicable) at approximately the same price per pound(or less) versus quality processed dog food(Canidae, Acana) and his frequency and size of turds are greatly reduced(enhanced absorption).

                        I don't mean to suggest you love your dog any less. In the end you have to do what you gotta do.

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                        • #13
                          I plan to look more into prey at some point but at the moment I'm still doing terrible with the temptation to eat things I shouldn't and I'm not even doing well on the feeding myself. So putting pressure on myself to try and do prey at the same time is hard. I understand your love for dogs and do wish to go that route as soon as I can.

                          Hopefully one day I can do the best thing for my dog and myself and stop screwing it up for my dogs and me. I know this thread is about my dogs but if anyone has pictures they want to post of their dogs and what they are being fed I wouldn't mind I love dogs.
                          Age: 28
                          Height: 6'1"
                          Primal start date: July 1st 2011
                          Start Weight: 275
                          Current Weight: 248
                          Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
                          Body Fat 25.4%
                          Fat Mass 63.721
                          Fat Free Mass 74.6%
                          Fat Free Mass 187.087
                          Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
                          Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GrokON View Post
                            I agree, a pic would be great...

                            Hip bones absolutely should be easily felt, though, and show slightly. If those hip bones are well padded, the dog is F-A-T.

                            Depending on your dog's body type (to a degree) as a gauge, this is a very fit little dog:

                            Is that photo your dog? If so how much does it weight and how old? Just curious. Also is that a male or female I can't tell from that angle though I think I might see something.
                            Age: 28
                            Height: 6'1"
                            Primal start date: July 1st 2011
                            Start Weight: 275
                            Current Weight: 248
                            Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
                            Body Fat 25.4%
                            Fat Mass 63.721
                            Fat Free Mass 74.6%
                            Fat Free Mass 187.087
                            Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
                            Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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                            • #15
                              We always had good luck with TOTW. Weight will depend on breed/body type. On most greyhounds (our breed) seeing hip pointers and ribs is a GOOD thing. Most people keep their pets on the heavy side, so seeing an "at weight" dog looks odd to them (esp a "skinny" breed like a greyhound...we get comments all the time *rolls eyes*). And don't rely on your vet to tell you...unless a pet is morbidly obese, most vets will tell you your dog is fine - at least in my experience with greyhounds.

                              We have two dogs on kibble at the moment and we feed the grain free kibble from Costco. Feeding a grain free or premium kibble may not be cheaper than feeding a "grain" kibble...in fact, I'd say it probably won't be. TOTW is pretty much the cheapest grain free out there and depending on how much your dog needs to maintain their weight, your cost will probably go up a touch. I usually start by feeding the lowest recommended amount listed on the bag for the weight range of my dog and see what happens to their weight after a month...then adjust from there by a half cup. As mentioned earlier, if you need a cheaper dog food, my next "step down" would be something with rice as the grain/filler or supplement with human food scraps if possible.

                              Originally posted by Hardwarehank View Post
                              Why waste money on commercial dog food when you can feed your dog raw meaty(unprocessed) bones? You wouldn't eat garbage out of a bag. Why make your dog do the same? Buford loves whole chickens, beef hearts, soup bones with the marrow... still working on getting him to eat liver though.

                              His teeth are immaculate from all of the chewing of his food that he has to do.
                              Because feeding raw is a hassle and not everyone has the time/energy to source, store and prep raw for their dog(s). We do it for our 13, but two are on kibble - one due to teeth and pickiness (won't eat offal at all) and one due to being a new breed to us and the propensity of that breed for pancreatitis. I'd not judge someone for feeding the best kibble option they can find. Domestic dogs are fantastic scavengers and can live long and healthy lives eating marginal food.
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