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    On the recommendation of several people here, I've started reading Primal Body, Primal Mind. In the book, Natural Health Information Articles and Health Newsletter by Dr. Joseph Mercola is recommended as a good source of personal care products (shampoo, condition, etc.) that are gluten free.

    I've decided that if I'm going to do this, I need to really do it all the way and eliminate even the hidden sources of gluten in my life. So, I went to the site to buy some shampoo. Immiately though, I was bombarded with information about BioTHIN. I'm wondering what people here think about it.

    Honestly, this whole lifestyle change has definitely thrown me for a loop. I am extremely stressed out about it because, whereas before I felt guilty whenever I ate too much of something (counting calories) now I feel guilty when I eat just about anything at all... the milk isn't raw, the eggs say they're free range, but are they really good enough?, is the salmon the right kind of salmon?, did I work out too intensely?, did I work out enough?, yada, yada, yada. I'm starting to feel crippled with guilt/stress over every single thing I eat/don't eat and do/don't do. Earlier today I was considering taking phentermine again because when I take that I'm not hungry, so it is a lot easier to control what I eat (I can just wait until I can prepare something I am positive fits all the paleo criteria).

    So anyway, if anyone has thoughts, I want to hear them. I would also love it if people could share some breakfast and lunch ideas that are EASY EASY EASY to take with me to work. I walk 0.8 miles to the train station and another half mile to my office after the train every day. I hate carrying a lot of stuff with me if I can avoid it, which means I hate bringing my food to work. I need both hands free in case I fall on the ice (happens at least once a year...). I'm really overwhelmed with all the rules (grass fed beef, no dairy, only raw dairy, pesticide free veggies, etc.) and I don't feel like anything I'm doing is right. That is compounded by the fact that I haven't lost any weight, of course. I would love it if there was something easy to carry (like a bar or something that would fit in my purse) I could bring to work for meals. Or, if there are restaurants in the Chicago loop that anyone knows of, I will go to them instead. I honestly don't even care how much the food costs. I would spend $20 on lunch if I knew it fit all the rules and meant I didn't need to carry an extra bag every darn day.

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    a good handheld food for breakfast or lunch is frittata muffins. Just mix your favorite meats and veggies w/ organic cage free egg batter in muffin tins and then pack them into sandwich bags to grab and go.

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    • #3
      When you start thinking like that, STOP! It's expensive to buy everything organic. Do what you can, be proud that you're eating well for yourself, and leave it at that.
      Making adventure out of this thing called life

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      • #4
        Just do the best you can with the resources that are available to you. If you want to go all organic,free range,grass fed,etc. start with a few things and add more items as you find them. A lot of the recommended food is expensive and can be hard to find and it's not worth stressing over. I am waiting for my tax return to come so I can order a quarter grass fed beef and and some other natural meats to stock the freezer.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by alg2435 View Post
          When you start thinking like that, STOP! It's expensive to buy everything organic. Do what you can, be proud that you're eating well for yourself, and leave it at that.
          ^ This...
          Free your mind, and your Grok will follow!

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          • #6
            There is an expression that people use around here a lot:

            Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.


            You should be happy when you make a good decision for your body. The beauty of eating this way is that you absolutely do NOT need to be perfect to succeed. Eating primal food is fantastic for your body - even when you don't get the perfect primal food. Avoiding grains, HFCS and crappy oils will do wonders for you -even if they sneak in a little.

            You are over-thinking this. Just eat the best primal for YOU have access to and you'll do great
            Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

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            • #7
              It sounds somewhat like you are psychologically dependant on this "phentermine". This is an addiction. Stop taking it.
              Oh and if you ed up having a steak or salad which isn't completely organic it won't kill you. Just avoid any sauces or bread.
              In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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              • #8
                I guess maybe I am over thinking everything. I've been making the assumption that the people posting on this forum are doing primal perfectly during the 80% (or more) that they're sticking to the plan. I know I haven't been perfect because, for example, I get my salads from a salad bar near my office during the work week. I use my own dressing, but I would be willing to bet anything that the vegetables in the salad bar are not organic, local, or anything else of that nature. Same with the omelets I have for breakfast most days; they're made at a restaurant. On the weekend I make those things myself, but during the week I'm so rushed 90% of the time that if I try to only eat things I make myself I would go crazy and spend all my free time cooking.

                As for the phentermine, I haven't taken that in a long time. I used it in 2009 to lose weight for my wedding and for a few months after. I just remember how it made me feel so "in control" in a way I have never felt before or since when it comes to food. So yeah, when I start feeling out of control I always think back to it...

                But, seriously, does anyone know anything about biothin? I highly doubt that it works, but at the same time I am so desperate to lose weight that I would probably try anything.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nikitakolata View Post
                  it made me feel so "in control" in a way I have never felt before or since when it comes to food. So yeah, when I start feeling out of control I always think back to it...
                  Addiction.

                  And no, pills do not make you lose weight, at least not without serious side effects.
                  In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
                    Addiction.

                    And no, pills do not make you lose weight, at least not without serious side effects.
                    Well, I don't think BioThin would make a person lose weight. I am more curious as to whether the ingredients in it are good as supplements to help improve leptin resistance, for example. I've read a lot on Jack Kruse's site, but lately I am just on information overload. I have read so much in such a short time frame that I can't keep it straight anymore. So, that is what I'm wondering. I don't think any pill will magically make a person lose weight. But, I do believe that supplements can help a person's body operate more optimally, which I don't think is really a foreign concept to most people here.

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                    • #11
                      Have you considered IF to aid the weight loss? I'm actually doing a challenge right now (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread46750.html) ...want to join?
                      Making adventure out of this thing called life

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                      • #12
                        Well, you also need to feel guilty about all the cortisol that is now coursing through your body due to the guilt

                        If you're in information overload- then you need to go back to the basics. Meat, eggs, veggies- the best you can get but don't stress if that's conventional. Breathe. Play a little. Then add in little bits of information here and there. This is about making life easier, not harder. It's not a sprint. It's a marathon. So it needs to be approached one step at a time.

                        Not losing weight is frustrating, but I'm willing to bet that if you calmed down, focused on the basics for a few weeks, and chilled, you'd see results. Maybe not weight loss right away- not everyone does- but some improvement in mood, skin, digestion- something. Maybe even a more relaxed outlook overall
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                        • #13
                          I have been taking Biothin for a couple months now and it WORKS. As far as my diet goes, I only count calories and try to eat a balanced diet and do cardio and weight training. The rest gets to complicated for me to keep going with. I would love to be able to eat all organic and paleo, but I just can't stick with it and I love to eat out. Back to the biothin - I had been dieting by counting the calories before but as a lost weight it was getting harder to drop the pounds as fast the more I lost, because the less energy my body required. However, after about 6 weeks of taking biothin (typical for fucoxanthin to starting working at the cellular level - says so with FUCOTHIN product by garden of life) it was like my metabolism kicked into high gear. I could eat more than the calorie equation per myfitness pal but still lose more. It has been amazing. I thought the last 20 lbs would come off so slowly but I am now one lb from my goal and have lost faster on this than I did when I was bigger and required more calories. However, I sometimes feel like I am starving on this - I get so hungry, sometimes causing me to eat a little more calories than I planned but I still lost! Some ingredients are supposed to help with hunger like Hoodia but no Hoodia I have ever taken has decreased my appetite. It is hard to suppress my appetite/hunger. I have taken phentermine in the past and did not like it - felt high and not hungry in the morning, felt equally low in the evenings. It only suppressed my appetite for a short while, then I got immune to it. The most I ever lost on it was 6 lbs and I did not like the side effects. Biothin is only good for you. I think your body can become immune to it also after a while though. Oh, forgot to mention that I also combined it with his CLA like he recommends. Has definitely been worth the money and I would recommend it to anyone.

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                          • #14
                            The above poster has one post, doesn't eat paleo and says biothin realy works. Really works for what? For eating CW and losing weight? If that's what you want, go for it.

                            What works is to put lots of heavy cream in your coffee. If you get coffee on your way to work, start getting into the habit of bringing your own mug. Put your own cream in it from home. That's what I do and my own mug keeps it way warmer than a paper cup. If you put enough heavy cream in it, you won't need breakfast for at least an hour, if at all.

                            I eat at restaurants sometimes. I just order the best thing I can see on the menu. Bacon cheeseburger without the bun and fries. Cobb salad without dressing. Stuff like that. You don't have to be perfect to gain results.

                            Try the heavy cream in the coffee. Seriously you don't need drugs and powders to keep yourself from feeling hungry. You need saturated animal fat and lots of it. You'll see. It's miraculous. After your body becomes fat-adapted, you'll be able to go 24 hours without a meal and not be hungry.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nikitakolata View Post
                              I guess maybe I am over thinking everything. I've been making the assumption that the people posting on this forum are doing primal perfectly during the 80% (or more) that they're sticking to the plan.
                              Not even close.

                              Look we all do what we can do, and that's good enough. I buy regular meat from the grocery store, don't buy organic anything (except heavy cream) unless it's right there in front of me and basically live my life. There are a million things that can stall weight loss, and stress is pretty high up on the list. RELAX! Don't eat gluten or soy, avoid crap oils as much as possible and move some. If you can do more than that, then great, but just those things will make your life considerably better than it was before.

                              Oh, and ignore the poster that's all excited about Biothin. They're obviously not eating Primal, and by their own admission, they are constantly hungry and feel like crap. Not exactly a glowing endorsement, especially when that's their only post ever. Not saying that there is anything wrong with Biothin - I honestly don't know - just don't take their word for it. The easy way out is usually a direct road to nowhere.
                              Durp.

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