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  • What do you think of the film... Into the Wild?

    Watched this movie tonight and although I found the film itself very well done I don't know exactly how to feel about Christopher McCandless himself AKA Alexander Supertramp. My first instincts are to think that he was a total dumbass but I would like to hear your opinions about this.

    Christopher McCandless - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    What do you think?




  • #2
    I felt that the film treated him very compassionately, and left the opinion of him "neutral." -- i thought that this was good.

    what i took away from it was that we all make our decisions -- for good or ill in the end -- and that there's no wrong in them either way. Yes, our decisions hurt people, or edify people, or neither, and that at the end of the day, we are simply human beings being human.

    for me, the film brought a great sense of absolution, as i'd been through a couple of difficult family deaths in short order during that time. i felt that i hadn't done enough, or that i could have done more or been better. but, that isn't necessarily true, nor even necessarily "necessary." so, for me, that's what the whole thing brought up.

    but, i have to say that another take away is to learn well before you take something big on. he hadn't hunted before, for example, or foraged. it's best to have practical experience with someone experienced before you take it on by yourself. book learning really only goes so far.

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    • #3
      The movie was beautiful. Yeah, McCandless had issues. I know people who have trained in Survival for years who wouldn't attempt to weather the Alaskan winter like that--probably because they know how fierce nature can be. Sometimes our heady - you can learn everything from a book or a documentary - culture can be dangerous.

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      • #4
        Guy was a total naive dumbass your conclusion is spot on
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        • #5
          Thanks Zoebird... that is a very nice and constructive critique.

          I have to admit that I was drawn into the romanticism of his story, despite the fact that in reality the Alaskan authorities have been quoted as reviling him for his stupidity so that noone else undertakes such a foolish task.

          But it doesn't take away from the fact that many view his story as being liberating if not one that they wish to emulate...

          Not that it should be repeated as such...

          What do the rest of you think?

          Dig

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dig62 View Post
            Thanks Zoebird... that is a very nice and constructive critique.

            I have to admit that I was drawn into the romanticism of his story, despite the fact that in reality the Alaskan authorities have been quoted as reviling him for his stupidity so that noone else undertakes such a foolish task.

            But it doesn't take away from the fact tha tmany view his story as being liberating if not one that they wish to emulate...

            Dig
            Death is often seen as liberating
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            • #7
              Perhaps I can frame this by asking... would you do anything diferently than Christopher McCandless?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dig62 View Post
                Perhaps I can frame this by asking... would you do anything diferently than Christopher McCandless?
                Practice the skills needed to survive in the wild, he didn't liberate himself, death liberated him from life.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kenn View Post
                  Guy was a total naive dumbass your conclusion is spot on
                  It's not often that I'm in agreement with kenn, but yeah, this. I wished he's been hit by a bus in the beginning to spare me the agony of watching the idiot.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dig62
                    Yeah but his story seems to touch the heartsprings of many, regardless...
                    people are touched by reality tv
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                    • #11
                      Although, to be fair, from what I've read it's believed that he was suffering some kind of mental illness, in which case we should feel sorry for these characters and not try to assign some kind of grand meaning to them other than "Don't be stupid". A friend of my boyfriend lived in a remote area of Canada for a while and apparently a few idealistic young people try to do the same thing every year there. Really pisses off the rangers who have to go out and rescue their naive asses. Testing your mettle is not a bad thing if you're prepared for the challenge. Suburban kids who go out thinking that mother nature will cuddle them to her breast are terribly misguided.
                      Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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                      • #12
                        Movies are never made about the 'geniuses' that never take risks.
                        Ye shall know them by their fruits.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Laconophile View Post
                          Movies are never made about the 'geniuses' that never take risks.
                          Most geniuses take calculated risks, they don't do something crazy like go out into the wild with no clue...
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                          • #14
                            I saw the movie before I had any knowledge of primal living, when I feared the sun and was completely entranced by all the bullshit in society. I gotta say... I was in complete awe of the beauty and the message of the movie, and I think it's kind of funny that I discovered the paleo lifestyle and I can now completely sympathize with his desire to connect with the world once again, naive as he was in the environment he chose or in his rejection of human relationships.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kenn View Post
                              Most geniuses take calculated risks, they don't do something crazy like go out into the wild with no clue...
                              "The calculating man is a coward. I say this because calculations have to do with profit and loss, and such a person is therefore preoccupied with profit and loss. To die is a loss, to live is a gain, and so one decides not to die. Therefore one is a coward. Similarly a man of education camouflages with his intellect and eloquence the cowardice or greed that is his true nature. Many people do not realise this."

                              McCandless was pretty naive (now he's dead) but there are worse things to be than naive or dead.
                              Ye shall know them by their fruits.

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